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First time I looked at this threat and I like how you did it by keeping all your pictures in one section think I will start that under the kitfox 1 section since that section is dead. also I like the stringer you added to the top of your bird, we'll call that the fast back mod.

I got a set of led bulbs from ac spruce for my old grimes navigation lights. Pretty bright. They are 35 bucks each but if you turn them on, turn off then back on within 3 seconds they strobe. No power supply needed other than your battery and are a direct replacement bulb.

Leni do you have a part# for these bulbs? sounds like my easiest option as I'm already set up with grimes lights

I have lost some hair wondering if the Warp Drive pusher left-hand rotation blades could be set in the hub backwards and used in the tractor right-hand rotation position. Wondering if IVO could work that way too?

EdMO

From what I understand, the Bandit had the .083 spars, and 503 engine. It was designed to have a light empty weight. If you load it with the same amount as most of our birds, the GW may be about 200 to 300 lbs less than our heavier birds.

As a point in comparison, the Kitfox 4 with the 503 engine, .065 spars, and 1" struts, was listed as 1050 GW, but with the 582 engine it was 1150 or 1200 - so the difference in GW was only in the engine.

The 7/8" spars were tested and spar bolt/rod end failed at about 15,000 lbs - so no problem there - see my post in "Files and Forms".

The Avid Magnum, 1700 GW uses the same 1/4" spar strut bolt.

I have heard "rumors" that Dean flew the original .065 Avid wings at 1500 GW, but imagine that it was smooth air, and a good pilot - I repeat, this has been "rumored".

I think that the original Kitfox .065 spars with the full-length extruded "I" beam in them are probably stronger than any of the ones with short inserts, but I have never seen any engineering numbers to compare them.

I guess your GW is only as big as your Cahunas!

EDMO

Im using it now on a single seat tbird that I took the floats off of .dropped it too a two blade with the hpl hub .a belt driven tractor and a geared pusher spin the same way .warp came off the subaru when I installed the ifa.

(The ifa still amazes me every time I fly the avid)

thanks joey ill get the 2.62 then .

The paperwork I got with mine said 1085 on the brouchure and the original bill of sale from the dealer.. I have seen numbers all over the place on these birds.

 

My 1992 MKIV HH's gross weight rating was 1150. I don't know of any published specs that exceeded 1150 for any of the "original" Avid kits.

 

I don't consider Fat Avids or any of the newer modified versions that sold in tiny ammounts as the company was rapidly changing hands "original" Avids.

I too would like the detailed response to this one.  It's been cussed and discussed here.  Seems the HH weights were all over the place.  At the end of the day, its what ever you want to put in the plane.  There is not a "gross weight" listed on any of my FAA paperwork nor any others that I have seen.  Just what you decide to put on the W&B sheet.

 

I ran a 70" tapered tip warp with a 2.62:1 Box for 300 hrs. Great combination!

 .ill be using the 70" 

warp drive that came of my avid.

 

Don't think you can use the same prop on a pusher that was used on a tractor application.  Not unless you are using an engine that turns opposite direction.....  Jim Chuk

Not so fast!  )  I would be interested in the answer you found.  Can you tell us what the thread was that you found?  Thanks,  Jim Chuk

I bet it will to ed,that's the same engine as the m8 snowmobile isn't it.

I am in need of a rotax c gear box if any has one otherwise ill have to buy a new one. ithink the 2.62 ratio ?anybody know .ill be using the 70" 

warp drive that came of my avid.

My apologies, I found a great thread that answered this in detail, and the owner responded in detail, so disregard. I'd delete the question if I could figure out how!

I am looking at an amateur built Avid Bandit built in '95 that had "every update to make it a heavy hauler" added during build, like 7/8" struts and HH spars. Would that allow it to have a 1200 lb MGW, which is what it is stated as having?  Thanks!

I can take photos of mine this weekend but I am not sure if that will help. My hangar mate also has a C model and his stiffeners are located differently than mine. Mine may have been altered by the original builder to install large windows in the turtle deck.

 

I actually want to replace my turtle deck with a single piece tinted lexan part like I have seen others do.

Hi Dan thanks for the response. If you could post a few pics that would be great!

 

Dan

  

I have one in the backyard from my barn find. I will post pics tomorrow too when it's daylight.

That would be very much appreciated!

  

I don't know much about the different Avid models, but from what I have read, you might be a lot happier with the full Lexan or at least the solid Lexan top - I've heard lots of comments about the ones with hinges leaking.EDMO

Hi EDMO ive considered going full lexan but decided that will add extra time and money and I really want to fly. Perhaps I will do that as a mod once flying.

Thanks for all the responses,

Bill

I don't know much about the different Avid models, but from what I have read, you might be a lot happier with the full Lexan or at least the solid Lexan top - I've heard lots of comments about the ones with hinges leaking.

EDMO

I have one in the backyard from my barn find. I will post pics tomorrow too when it's daylight.

I can take photos of mine this weekend but I am not sure if that will help. My hangar mate also has a C model and his stiffeners are located differently than mine. Mine may have been altered by the original builder to install large windows in the turtle deck.

 

I actually want to replace my turtle deck with a single piece tinted lexan part like I have seen others do.

 

Dan

If Leni could get his 800 going, it should have a float takeoff like JATO!

EDMO

I will post a photo when I can get to them - they are in a box in my shed - right now we have 3 inches of icy snow and more is predicted tonight, with next three days of freezing rain, sleet, snow - temps around 8F and wind chill below zero.

This aint Alaska! I left my Sorrels and my grippers up there.

EDMO

warp drive hub old style triangle no blade's hub in good shape.make me an offer.

You might want to check the bolt pattern, 2 different for the 912 . Early 912 are a little different at least on the big bolt circle.

They used Aluminum Oxide blast on my airframe.  SInce it is softer than the base metal, theoretically it should not damage the underlaying good metal.

 

Be sure you have enough compressor not to get moisture through the blaster.  That can cause embedded rust to form, meaning constant corrosion issues in the future.

I think Joey's new gear is going to be great.

I went with a Hydrosorb system on my Magnum...Joey looked into it and the guy just wants too much money! The suspension costs more than the gear. If a guy had a manufacturing connection for the urethane pucks it would be a simple suspension to make.

I took the flaming wallet approach and bought a set, I'm not flying my Magnum yet, but I like the idea of not having to worry about bungees and having to change them out.

Here is the link to my Magnum gear...

http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?/topic/1515-magnums-with-airdale-bush-gear/

Ron

Hi all I'm working on a recently purchased avid model c and currently working on the turtle deck. Unfortunately my manual does not tell me where to rivet the stiffeners to the turtle deck. Can someone direct me with some photos or info?

Thanks much,

Bill

Ihave experience with the HF soda blaster. OK for the money. Did the job, but it needs a lot of air volume and tends to be a bit finicky(sp)? Prolly do well on paint, but I bet would struggle with powder coat.