Not sure if there is a Market. Is Avid producing kits yet? Tubing at Spruce has doubled on alot of sizes and shipping is triple I found that out the other day they wanted 46 dollars to role up a throttle cable and ship it to me so I called them to get a proforma number they got it down to 18 bucks. Frustrating when I have to do that anymore.
It seems so and people are willing to pay the price. There were probably more model 4's sold than 1,2 or 3's combined. Not too many of any of them on the market now, either. Wonder if there would be a market for a new model 1, 2 or 3 kit manufactured today at a reasonable price? At material prices though it would be hard to stay at a reasonable price.
This is wrong. Total drag is not proportional to V^2. The portion of drag proportional to V^2 is the parasite drag. Induced drag is inversely proportional to V^2. So at lower speeds induced drag dominates and at higher speeds parasite drag dominates. Think of it this way, reducing parasite drag gets a bump in speed, and the bump in speed gets a reduction in induced drag. So, when you reduce parasite drag you also get an induced drag reduction as a bonus. If you are in a region where induced drag is dominant then the induced drag reduction could be very large for a modest parasite drag reduction.
You being In the real mountains know there are some places that you stay out of and places to avoid. Yes, everything you said is correct but any plane has its limits. If a hundred foot better climb rate is the difference between dragging the trees or clearing them, then the problem started long before take-off. After 40 years of flopping around in these mountains, I have my own rules for mountain flying. And they are unbreakable! !. Be able to fly a target airspeed within 1-2 mph. 2. Be able to hit your spot within 10' every time. 3.Know your wind at all times. 4. Know your location at all times. 5.Know your weather. 6.Know your aircraft and what it can and can't do. (mandatory) There are a few more but unless one can do these, they need to stay out of the mountains. And your mountains are even less forgiving of mistakes. And you know about always having an out. No explaining needed. Not meaning you, but if one is going to play off road, they need their head in the game. Yeah! I am a hard a%$.
Something to think about, especially in the mountains. If there are things we can do to clean these birds up that translates into less power needed to keep them in the air. This also is a direct benefit to having more that required power available when you get caught in that downdraft etc to help you power out of it and perhaps keep you from becoming a statistic. When I was putting some fairings on mine, I was not really impressed on the speed increases I got. I was very impressed with the increase in rate of climb. As one who plays in the mountains, this should be of utmost importance to you. As we all know, when you are dicking around and change one thing, it probably has some unintended or unforeseen consequences, and as such, can also have unforeseen or unintended benefits!
Hey, go for it! Makes little difference to me since I didn't get mine for speed anyway. 60-65 is just fine for me since most anywhere I go is an hour or less. I live in the mountains so going to the mountains is walking out the backdoor, or flying a pattern around the strip.
I have the 21" tires and there are several points for me. I can now keep up with my buddy's Kitfox Four when we are traveling to the Backcountry in Idaho, while flying in the Backcountry by pulling the throttle back a bit I won't have to head out to get fuel as often and it's fun when non-believers tell you an Avid won't go that fast!
That thought has crossed my mind Jim.I read somewhere about a pilot adding a belly pod to a Super Cub and picking up several miles per hour. It would be a fun project to build out of carbon fiber, if I were Mike Patey it would have been done by now. Have you watched his latest video on building the CF fuselage covering for his latest project? I'll see if I can post a link and do an edit. Also the pod sure would be nice when I head into the Backcountry camping again next summer. Casper was just chosen for one of the three sites next year by the AOPA for their fly-in's. Maybe some of this group will make it up here for that. I'm going to get a hold of the flying Cowboys and see if they are interested in doing a STOL Drag for that.
Thank you sir! Folks, please refrain from posting any serious content till I get this ironed out and get the forum back to running correctly. I would hate to loose any more new info if I have to revert back to the Wednesday backup.. again.. Thanks
I am really skeptical about putting a few fairings on an Avid and getting 10 or 15 mph more cruise out of it. Physics argues otherwise. Drag goes up by the square of speed, so if you want the same power to get you from 90 mph to 100 mph (let alone the 120 mph someone posted here!), you have to cut the drag by 20%. How many gas caps does it take to equal the drag of that big wing? Or the fuselage cross section? Or those long double struts? To get to 120 mph, you have to drop the drag by almost 80%.
Do we have any members here that know anything about the invision software and are computer geeks, I mean gurus? I have the godaddy security and migration teams working this but they are not invision gurus and are the ones that kind of hosed this up to begin with. I am 700 miles away from my laptop and the security on the work computers will not let me get into the control panel etc. If you think its frustrating for you folks I am about 1000 times beyond that level of frustration right now. Nothing like pissing away 800 bucks for a hack job on the server move..
Just seen a Fox model 1 on barnstormers for 21,900. Hope he gets his price for it or something close. Maybe some are starting to see how good these planes are and price them accordingly. The days of good flyable Avid/Foxes for 10K are gone.
I had thought about building a fairing that would completely enclose the cabane. It would attach to the belly of the plane like a belly pod. Most likely out of fiberglass. I think it would cut down on a bunch of drag, and the area behind the cabana could maybe become a baggage area if built right. JImChuk
I really appreciate the time, money, and effort you’ve put into this. It’s a great site. The people here have been really helpful with my project. I did notice some problems posting pictures today. Uploads failed when I clicked the link, so I copied and pasted a pic, which appeared to work, at first, but after I posted, the post was just blank. I’m sure they’ll get it all worked out. Thanks again for putting this together, and to everyone else for being a part of it.