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Wow, Is the idea to run them full length?  I have been noodling on a set up like the Highlander STOL, but I don't think their slats increase the chord nearly as much as what you are trying.   Are you going to try and split the flaps and ailerons?

It seems like their flaps are at least as important to performance as the slats.  

I borrowed a slat panel that Randy Apling is making out of carbon fiber for the cubs and fabbed a mounting pattern for my Avid wing out of 1/8 plywood. I made it with 3 mounting positions so I could move the leading edge of the slat up and down.  Randy says the best spot on the cub is with the hook line where the convex top and concave bottom meet under the leading edge of the slat at 5.5" ahead of the leading edge of he wing and 3/8" above the bottom of the wing.  With the Avid undercamber wing I think it might need to have the height of the leading edge a little different so I made the mounting plate with the 3 holes so I could adjust it.  It looks like it fits pretty well but the large amount of washout in the Avid wing really shows.  With my new wings I plan to reduce the washout to 3/4" so It should lay on the wing a lot smoother.  The opening is limited to 3" with pins when mounted.

The last set of pictures is with it on a cub wing so you can see the comparison; not that much different.  I think it will work on the Avid wing OK.

OK, what do you guys think?  Am I crazy for thinking seriously about doing this?

I didn't mean to sound like I would go tree whacking just because I had a leading edge wrap on a wing, simply that things happen. The example was an extreme case, but like Ed said, just a little protection from rough handling more than anything.

I understand that just about any airplane would be down for the count for a while if tree whacking were involved!  Now if that there just a tree instead of another smiley! lol

I'd love to have a place out in BFE like that. Always wanted to live on a strip or airport, but can't afford the crazy HOA places that are fly in communities.

Cool pictures too.

Put 3.1 hours on the hobbs today. Flew to 2 new spots I had never been. One was a ranch where Bonanza, Little House on the Prairie, Bad Girls, Unforgiven, Back to the Future 3 and a bunch more movies were filmed. Sure felt good to get out and land some new places today!

Here is a link the Ranch http://www.visiting.hillvalleycity.com/hill_valley_1885/hill_valley_1885.html

Didn't take many pics but here's a couple

My friend Scott in his S-6. I keep telling him he needs bigger tires

At the movie ranch. The owner was 80 and sharp as a tack. His stories about flying a cub off the strip in the 60's and the film crews throughout the years was amazing. Sounds like Michael J Fox was a real prick back in the day. I def plan on going back and taking some more pictures.

And here's a short video I tossed together of departing a buddies strip. He has a MKIV and is a member here. Thanks again for letting me come into your strip Jim!

I think the plastic leading edge trim that Kitfox sells is good protection for the front spar for normal mis-handling - but tree-hacking is a little much!

EDMO

I'm sure it works great off of a asphalt runway.

you do that in a kitfox or avid and your looking at a new spar.. the spar is the leading edge so whacking trees that leave dents will dent your flying for awhile.

My wife and I will be camping across the treeline from Larry. We will arrive Saturday and leave the next Sunday.

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I realize that the leading edge probably doesn't need this, but from my viewpoint of using it in the backcountry and flying tight into trees at times I think the little added protection wouldn't hurt. Not that I'd try to test it against a tree but I've seen some strange things that people have done over the years. I once saw an ag-wagon leading edge that had a dent about 4" into the leading edge. The pilot just kind of turned his eyes to the ground and said, "yeah, didn't see that tree on my approach", when I asked about it. He told me later that it was just a sapling but it took about a 2' wide section patch to fix it! Good thing those ag-wagons are built fairly tough.

At 80 degrees of flaps you might as well be able to tilt the wing! That's some serious barn door hanging down at that rate. I'd like to see pictures of that.

Maybe someone with a plane needs to go around collecting all our fellow Avid people when they fly out commercially! :D

I just decided I want a beer more than a hovercraft.

I have taken better pictures of the baggage compartment. Here they are:

Hope this helps

Dave

For once I'd really like to go this year.  No idea what to do for flights... 2-1/2 hr drive from O-Hare, I guess that's an option too.

Thanks for the thoughts; always good to bounce this off of others.  Flutter would certainly be a concern since they are flaperons and not separated flaps.  If they were only flaps I would not be as cautious in experimenting with this.  Maybe not the best thing to experiment with unless we could test them in a wind tunnel first.

Makes you wonder if you were to experience some flutter when you pulled full flaps if by letting off on the flaps the flutter would stop quickly? 

I guess this would be a strong argument to have separated flaps.  The Kazoom has extended flaps plus the lengthened flap chord and they deploy to 80 degrees; but it sounds like they only drop them to that right at landing to help slow the plane.

Horizontal, Randy - Just like Helicopter blades! 

EDMO

Anyone know of a Narco ID-824 (or maybe 825) laying around real cheap or trade for the Cessna/ARC indicator? The old ARC VOR indicator will not hook up to the Narco 12D radio.

Yeh, and I'm only starting with my 2nd Bud Lite - It is a left-hand bottle, but I'm holding it in my right hand - but if I turn my chair around backwards, then it is on the left side - right? 

Did you know that in some foreign countries, it is considered Bad Manners to change hands with your knife and fork, like we often do, even with propellers?

EDMO

Joey, Please inform your Dad that "He is a Shit-Disturber"!  HA! 

Seriously tho - I would like to hear about and see some photos of the HC in the "other aircraft" posts.

ED

Ah-Ha - Knew there was something wrong with swapping tractor props - You cant put a Rotax prop on a Soob - The Hub wont fit - but guess you could swap blades if they will work in a Soob hub.

Figured that out after 3rd Bud Lite! 

I'm finished.....

ED

Now which way do those caps twist off when you turn your chair around?

Great project.  The straight tail manual flap 150s can actually be a pretty capable plane if your not going far and dont have to run full tanks. 

 

There shouldnt be any file size limits that you would reach unless your using a gazillion megapixel camera

 

I am digging the resto threads here and looking forwards to more pics!  Where did you get the headliner from?  I am still looking for a place to get the interior that is not stupid expensive.  I hate the thought of paying 2 grand for a few chunks of plastic.

 

Headliner from Aircraft Spruce. About $110 but would have thought it would have cost much more than that.

The original headliner started ripping under it's own weight as we were removing it. Very brittle even though there was not a single tear in it when we started takine it out.

The plasic was all in good shape, just faded and stained. They cleaned and painted up nice and will look great when all are put back in.

Plane had not been annualed since 2001. Unsure when it ran last. After cleaning carb, lines, gascolator and hooking up a gas can to fuel lines, we tied it off to a pole in my shed, I had my boy strap in the left seat, give 2 shots of prime and give about 1/8" on the throttle. (First gave him shut down procedures if something went wrong.) 2nd flip of prop gave a caugh. 3rd flip, it started right up and purred. Idled down to about 650. Later with plane out side, found out you can not get much over 1100 rpm by feeding in gas from a gallon can sitting on the roof through a piece of 1/4" OD aquarium hose.

You didn't comment on that engine I uploaded PIC of which I was thinking we should put in the 150. (Just kidding.)

For 4.5 years I had a 72 C150 which I got my license in. After getting this one, I started reading on 150s. Sounds like the older straight tails perform considerably better than the later ones.

Always wishing I had more time/stuff to post on this site. Also wished I had more progress to post on our Avid project.

The pictures did not upload because if file size. There was a message about max file size. I think the camera is 10mp or so. The one or 2 pix that did upload I took with my old V3m razr. I resized the pics and they came right up. Wasn't paying attention to the size message or what I resized them to.

Great project.  The straight tail manual flap 150s can actually be a pretty capable plane if your not going far and dont have to run full tanks. 

There shouldnt be any file size limits that you would reach unless your using a gazillion megapixel camera

I am digging the resto threads here and looking forwards to more pics!  Where did you get the headliner from?  I am still looking for a place to get the interior that is not stupid expensive.  I hate the thought of paying 2 grand for a few chunks of plastic.

Depends on whether you are talking about just covering the leading edge with aluminum, or adding the aluminum leading edge extensions.

With my short fuselage, and heavy Soob engine and nose gear, I extended my leading edges 4 inches, but used plywood ribs and 1mm plywood cover like Doug talked about.

EDMO

The Avid has been on the back burner since last spring when my middle son sold his house/shop. It's not stored in the back of my shed, waiting for more room, more time and yes, some warmer weather.

To make the room, my youngest son and I need to get our latest project in the air. With the 2 boys wanting their PPL and myself who needs to get in the air as much as possible, we've been looking out for a good trainer.

What we found was the 108th 150 ever made in the fall of 1958. The wings were already off and the plane was hauled and sitting about 30 miles from our house and the price was right.

Fuel system needed some cleaning up, needed a couple flap cables, radio was ancient (only 100 channels and did not work) and the interior could use a little attention.

We have all but the fuel tanks taken care of and the engine is running strong. Great compression.

Head liner was in good shape until we started taking it out the rest of the way to sew it back together where someone un-stitched it to get at the last flap cable pulleys. New head liner is here and is next to be installed.

Came across a Narco 12D radio and have it installed. Fortunately I have a very expensive antenna analyzer and decided to hook it up and check the nav and comm antennas. The comm antenna would have fried the new (uses) Narco and the BNC connector was fubar.

Engine baffling has been redone, interios plastic removed, cleaned and repainted and the carpeting has been replaced. Clean interior now. Paint job will have to remain as is till some future date/year.

Need to get this 150 back in the air this spring, then can get the Avid back out and into reproduction.

I would leave them off if I had it to do again.

Leni,

     Someone has to keep you awake on the job - Counting polar bears in snow can make you sleepy!

EDMO