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Av8r3400 added a post in a topic Gospel Lake 14 Sep 2015

My turn today!

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1avidflyer added a post in a topic Repair of fuselage lower aft stringer 14 Sep 2015

What exactly do you need Joey, I have lots of polyfibre stuff, and lots of stuff to cover, but might be able to send something your way. Jim Chuk

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dholly added a post in a topic Avid Catalina Kit FOR SALE 14 Sep 2015

Heck of a deal. I hope Dale shares some pics of this build!

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EDMO added a post in a topic Overhaul time! 13 Sep 2015

Joey,
Are the fires getting close to your home?
EdmO

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C5Engineer added a post in a topic Overhaul time! 13 Sep 2015

I've only flown it in cruise at fairly low altitude but my initial impressions are that if I did lose some speed it's not mind blowing. They are heavier but when you look at them straight on I think they are actually more aerodynamic than my nancos. Those things had a 13" wide flat foot print sticking out there in the wind. The Dessers are crowned like a real tire should be. In any the case for the type of flying that I typically do they penalties outweigh the cost.

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C5Engineer added a post in a topic Avid rebuild 13 Sep 2015

I was searching for this post earlier today regarding my latex painting and as I was scrolling thru I realized that there was no ending to the story. At least on this thread. Here is the first flight video from 2009. The ending pretty much sums out how I felt about the whole thing.

https://youtu.be/aFaE_Uin4OA

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C5Engineer added a post in a topic Repair of fuselage lower aft stringer 13 Sep 2015

Did you have some poly fiber materials laying around or did you buy a repair kit? I have a few small things I'd like to do to mine but I have zero usuable covering supplies leftover and buying even the smallest available is still spendy!

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C5Engineer added a post in a topic Latex Paint 13 Sep 2015

My fuse was already sprayed with aero thane. I thinned down Kelly Moore with water and floetrol. It sprayed on smooth and shiny. Second page of this thread has pics and details. Wow hard to believe that was over 6 years ago.
http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?/topic/279-avid-rebuild/?fromsearch=1

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EDMO added a post in a topic Repair of fuselage lower aft stringer 13 Sep 2015

I wasn't around when my buddy repaired the J3 wing, but he said it was very easy to repair the fabric with Stewarts finish. He has done other finish repairs before. I could ask him for more details if anyone wants to know.
EdMO

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RobS added a post in a topic Repair of fuselage lower aft stringer 13 Sep 2015

Really nice work!

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Av8r3400 added a post in a topic Repair of fuselage lower aft stringer 13 Sep 2015

Great job to make the oops go away!

I'll second the emotion on the ease of Poly Fiber repairs, especially with 'tone paint.

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briankbski added a post in a topic Avid Catalina Kit FOR SALE 13 Sep 2015

Well ... she is on her way to Southern Ontario and her new home. See attached photos. New owner is Dale H. A bit of an Avid nut ... like the rest of us. LOL Seemed super thrilled and excited to get her home. He has owned two others. One Avid Amphibian and one Catalina both had droop tips. Best of luck Dale and please keep in touch. Can't wait to see her complete and flying. Now ... on to working on my Airdale. : )

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Av8r_Sed added a post in a topic Repair of fuselage lower aft stringer 12 Sep 2015

Kudos to you, Mark. Way to get on a repair! I can sure see the merits of a polytone finish. With Aerothane, I'd still be thinkink about how to blend it in (though not as much on the bottom of the fuse).

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MarkD added a post in a topic Latex Paint 12 Sep 2015

I do not have any experience with the Latex process so I have to ask, How easy or difficult is it to repair? Just the way I think about stuff, I want to be able to fix my oops when they happen.

MarkD

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MarkD added a post in a topic Yup, Did a Dumb 12 Sep 2015

I posted documentation of the repair in the Technical section. I thought it might fit better there if someone else was looking for help on how a fabric repair was done.

MarkD

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MarkD added a topic in Technical tasks 12 Sep 2015

Repair of fuselage lower aft stringer

I broke the stringer under the tail of my Flyer. The description of how I managed to do this is posted in my "Yup, I did a Dumb" thread. This is documentation of how I repaired the damage.

There are a lot of pictures of the process I went through to accomplish the repair.

First I removed the damaged fabric just enough to see what I was going to have to do. then I removed the broken wood stringer pieces. I made a new stringer section and used epoxy to attach some wood doublers to each end of the replacement strip.

I had to open the fabric up some more to be able to clamp the replacement section in place while the epoxy set up. The holes ended up being a bit larger than I had originally hoped they would be.

After removing the clamps and a little sanding I removed the paint around the edge of the holes in the fabric with MEK to be able to bond the replacement fabric to the original fabric.

I glued on new fabric with POLY-TACK fabric cement. After the cement dried the new fabric was ironed to draw it tight.

After ironing the fabric tight POLY-BRUSH was applied and finishing tapes were applied to all edges of the repair.

More POLY-BRUSH over tapes to fill the weave then 2 coats sprayed on. Two coats of POLY-SPRAY (silver for UV protection) after the POLY-BRUSH had flashed off. Wet sanded then added two more coats.

After the POLY-SPRAY had dried enough the repair was painted with two coats of POLY -TONE 105 White. The original fabric and paint was applied in 2000, 15 years ago, still looks good and is repairable.

This is why I personally like the POLY-FIBER process. The repair was fairly simple and the only really difficult part was working over my head laying on the trailer. While I was at it I added another inspection ring so I can get to the elevator push-pull rod bushings buried in the aft portion of the fuselage for lubrication and inspections.

MarkD

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EDMO added a post in a topic Latex Paint 12 Sep 2015

Joey,
What process did you use for the tail painting? Did you brush, spray, sand, polish, wax?
Sounds like a lot of labor.
Much easier to spray water-thinned Stewarts paint using adequate breathing equipment, and you get a shiny finish, and repairs are simple.
EdMO

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Av8r3400 added a post in a topic verner 133 12 Sep 2015

Saw them on some PPCs at OSH...

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C5Engineer added a post in a topic Latex Paint 12 Sep 2015

Here's a site from a guy that did a workshop at Osh. My fuse and rudder is all that's left on my plane but after 6 years it still looks great.

http://wienerdogaero.com/Latex.php

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Av8r_Sed added a post in a topic repair manual 12 Sep 2015

Chris,
Thanks for scanning and posting. I took your files, re-collated, flipped and compressed it into one document.
Rotax Two Cycle Repair Manual.pdf

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Av8r_Sed added a post in a topic Latex Paint 12 Sep 2015

Unless you're a conscientious objector or you've been banned, there was a pretty good thread about latex paint recently on the other forum: http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=5074&highlight=latex+paint

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EDMO added a post in a topic KF FLAPERON 12 Sep 2015

I had a guy with a sheet metal box brake make some long aluminum trim parts for my house - It was only an 8 foot brake, but he made trim parts with two 90 degree bends in a part about 20 feet long.
If he has a right-hand flaperon, then he could use that as a pattern - possibly just buy the hangers from Kitfox, or make them.
I am sorry that it would cost him so much to ship mine to PR.
EdMO

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EDMO added a post in a topic Latex Paint 12 Sep 2015

Bandit,
There have been articles written about painting your plane with a roller and latex paint, doing a manageable area and going over the paint with a foam brush to smooth it out. I have seen photos, but don't know any more than that.
EdMO