dynomike

I did not .got to fly it but had oil leak .by  fourth Landing with the instructor we had to go full stop cause of oil on exhaust .made me sick cause the plane was beautiful and every thing worked great .loved the panel but it wasn't ready to fly across country .the seller was a really nice guy who didn't know of the leak as the builder had been flying the plane and had just got back from Virginia the night before .so shitty trip. He did write my deposit check for 2000 over to help with the expenses .so still in the market .first time in a sonex and loved it .might be that one still .there supposed to fix it this weekend. I tried to buy a sport acro airframe and then a 3300 of barnstormers but the guy with engine sold it out from under me yesterday .so that deal went to shit.unless you want to sell me your 3300!!. The plane was awesome except for the leak .a couple pics

 

You could email this guy john12nelson@gmail.com    

This is who I bought my 2200 from he also has a brand new 3300 still in the create for half price, it is a divorce sale great guy to work with, you may tell him i gave you his name if he asks, 

Having flown aerobatics I'm not sure this is the plane I would try them in. However that being said, when you do pitch up, make sure you take just one second (after pitching up enough) to unload the wings. The airplane will roll faster. 

Just be safe and don't do anything outside the envelope. Lots of altitude. Again, I don't condone this with this aircraft but I realize people will do what they want either way. Still, thanks for the video!

Kenneth

Another place where the gross weight would maybe be listed in paperwork, is when the plane is taken out of phase 1 flight.  Your are required to list in the log book stall speed and best rate of climb speed at gross (listed) weight.  This is written in the aircrafts log book, and you are stating  (certifying) that the plane is safe to operate at those speeds and weight.  Jim Chuk

I have been wondering about that for a long time - Say the Kit supplier lists the GW as 1400, and you fly Phase 1 at a max of 1300 GW, does the ramp checker go by your logbook, or what the kit supplier says the max GW for that model can be?

EDMO

the kit supplier is NOT the manufacture.  YOU the builder are the manufacture and you the BUILDER set the max weight.  This weight is only listed in the phase 1 log entries as there is not a space on the registration nor airworthiness for you to list a max weight for EAB.  It is kind of like putting a "ground only electrically adjustable prop" on your plane.  If you put one on and ever hit the switch in the air, then your plane can never again be used in the sport pilot category.  The only thing listed in my log is an ivo prop, it does not say how it is adjusted.  I would not even put the prop in the log book.  The less info you have in the log book, the less they have to try and hang you with... It is part of the don't ask don't tell policy that our over reaching government has driven us to.  I don't feel one bit bad about leaving out a detail here or there.

If the aircraft was ever outside of the light sport category, it can't go back into it.  If in the paperwork, it says it has a gross weight of over 1320, it can't go back legally.  Same would apply for an inflight adjustable prop.  Sorry,  Jim Chuk

If the aircraft was ever outside of the light sport category, it can't go back into it.  If in the paperwork, it says it has a gross weight of over 1320, it can't go back legally.  Same would apply for an inflight adjustable prop.  Sorry,  Jim Chuk

Jim is correct on that - some Ercoupes started out at about 1260 GW, but the "D" model and later, and some of the earlier ones that were modified were at 1400 GW -  Same thing with the Luscombs - The FAA says that any plane ever certificated/flown with a higher than 1320 GW cannot be changed back to Light Sport Category.  Guess you need to start working on a private pilots license, (and you still have to pass a 3rd class medical until they change the rules, like they are trying to do). 

Now, let me add the good side to your Kitfox 5 bargain:  You can fly it with a student permit and CFI until he signs you off for solo - you can fly it as long as you need to as a student until you are ready to pass your Private Pilot test.   I had a friend who was about a 20-year student pilot and never took the test!  There are some restrictions as a student.  But I think that with some study and experience, the Private Pilot Training will make you a better pilot, and you can go places that a Sport Pilot can't.

EDMO

Too bad a foot or two of snow is going to get in the way going North and West - Just maybe rain, storms and tornadoes South and West - Shitty time to try to get a new bird home!   Hope you have a safe trip back.   We have a frequent flyer on the way back from Europe tomorrow - For once, I hope he is coming direct to Chicago - usually not the best place.   Looks like your best shot at getting home is right over my house, and Mike's house at Jackson, MO - Just find your way to the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers and follow it home - Watch out for tall towers! 

EDMO