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Figured it out

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I have in in full mode, will see if i can figure out which one does the photo's and post a video of the boat

There should be a button to upload photos under the reply box.  If it is not there and your om the "mobile" site, you should find a button to hit that says go to full site.  This will open the site like your looking at it on the computer and let you upload as many pics as you want to.  I dont have a global limit on anyones pics here so post away.  If we get close on server space I just buy more space

The boat sounds COOL!  I dont get into bow hunting.. I helped an ex-uncle in law track too many bears he stuck but didnt kill.  Nothing worse that tracking a wounded bear in the fast approaching dark.  I dispatched them with my trusty .308 remington 600 and left them for him to drag out of the woods on 4 different occasions..  I stick to hunting with bang sticks

ok, I was getting the impression that he was making you do a bunch of shit, not just suggesting it.  Like i said before, you can keep the plane up to normal standards, but its not required.  I am good with safe

The requirements for experimental record keeping cant get much clearer than this.     http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=95716958001

Ok will give it a shot, would supply photo's for evidence but havent figured that out yet,

I have owned allot of ultralights , a model 2 kitfox and working on buying a model 5 right now, hoping to fly it home next week or shortly there after,

Avid hunter, im a meat hunter first, trophy hunter second, best white tail taken 32 pt buck with black powder TC bone collector, best white tail taken with bow 10 pt 26" spread , longest kill shot 30-06 10 pt at 800+\- yards

Designed and built my own mini pontoon boat with retractable wheels( electric actuators) and retractable hitch, bass pro was interested but wouldnt buy it with out a patent, it weighs 300 lbs floating , meaning ready to go, fueled , batteries charged and cooler full

hows about ya tell us a little something about your plane?  model, engine, any goodies that should make us jealous that ya put on it etc..

LOL, I got the list handed to me last time home.. Spent a few days knocking out projects for the wife, but I still managed to hit the first two days of duck season.  The weather was way too crappy for me to go to my moose spot so its another year without a moose in the freezer.

Hopefully in two weeks I will be flying and hunting and getting in the last of the float time before the water gets too stiff.

I would find a new A&P to work on it...  sounds like the IA is stuck on dealing with it like it is certified.  That is just my .02, but it seems that he is having you jump through hoops that you should not have to.   yes, if you desire, you can build it and maintain it to certified standards.. but if your gonna do that, why not go certified to begin with

Thanks tbucket as a rule life is about flying fishing or hunting,and good friends:) but today my wife thinks its about her " honey do or else" list so im putting paint on something other then an airplane

Welcome Skypirate  I have enjoyed your post that I have read on the forums....

Bob

I do like the open atmosphere cp

Thanks AKflyer and C-5 good to see ya , wondered where you went

Welcome to AFF! Feel free to speak your mind over here. We encourage a good ol fashioned agree to disagree.

I moved it for ya so ya got yer own thread here in our little slice of paradise.

Howdy, i accidentally posted on another guys intro, introducing myself, yup im a dumb shit and havent completely figured out my phone yet, need more lessons from my 8 year old, anyways i recognize a few on here as im sure a few of you recognize me so i dont have to tell you im a short fat tall skinny good looking ugly guy, you already know

I noted the same performance gain on mine!  The increase in climb was the big kicker for me!

Welcome SP.. I am thinking you will fit right in here on the dark side!

Strut fairing is the one add on that gained me more performance than it's weight penalty cost me.  I haven't timed the climb rate to be sure but it does seem to have increased.  The cruise speed at 5800 rpm went from 75 to 85 mph and the power off glide improved significantly too.

Hey guys n gals, new to this forum, 6' n ugly, dont know why if you cut a 10" piece of chrome molly and it's short, if you cut it again it's still too short, im in central missouri for now, hunt , fish, fly, 1+1 does equal 3 if you cross your eyes just right

Weight gets added one ounce at a time throughout the building and then the "Improving it" phases.

 

The original kitfox classic 4 sales brochure lists the empty weights as 580 with a 912, 560 with a 582, and 495 with a 503.

 

The 495 with the 503 required no polyspray, no wing tanks, no strut fairing, no false ribs, etc.  I built mine pretty bare bones but did install, two wing tanks, top and bottom false ribs.  I put three cross coats of polyspray on the top surfaces but  only two cross coats on the bottom of the fuselage and bottoms of the wings.  It weighed in empty at 547.

 

Seven years later it weighs 573.  26 pounds gained one ounce at a time.  Actually, 12 pounds was all at once when I added PVC wing strut fairing.

I never weighed the PVC struts when I put them on my plane, but I knew they were heavy.. damn, I may go to a different style fairing if I can figure out a lighter way to do it.  Maybe use the PVC ones for a mold and make them out of CF.

Your right about the one ounce, or one pound at a time.. it adds up quick!

I still cannot wrap my head around this weigh problem.  I don't understand what could be adding 50lbs to my airplane?

Weight gets added one ounce at a time throughout the building and then the "Improving it" phases.

The original kitfox classic 4 sales brochure lists the empty weights as 580 with a 912, 560 with a 582, and 495 with a 503.

The 495 with the 503 required no polyspray, no wing tanks, no strut fairing, no false ribs, etc.  I built mine pretty bare bones but did install, two wing tanks, top and bottom false ribs.  I put three cross coats of polyspray on the top surfaces but  only two cross coats on the bottom of the fuselage and bottoms of the wings.  It weighed in empty at 547.

Seven years later it weighs 573.  26 pounds gained one ounce at a time.  Actually, 12 pounds was all at once when I added PVC wing strut fairing.

I would have told him to pound sand..That is mixing certified terms with experimental planes.. If I was building a certified plane, I could say I overhauled it, but I can't say I zero timed it. 

Not to get all caught up in the book stuff, I am still head scratching where the weight came from.  What paint system did he use?  Is there so much paint on it that you cant see the weave of the fabric?  That is one quick way to add pounds on a plane.. It is a fabric plane, you should be able to see the weave.  If you shoot so much on that you cant see the weave, 1 your heavy and 2 its gonna ring worm on ya.  The grove gear adds a few pounds over the stock gear, but nothing that should be making it that damn heavy.  I have full extended baggage in mine as well as 1" .058" lift struts and a few other things that I did that put some pounds on the plane, but I cant even come close to your weights if I tried.

The "actual W&B" will be done in a few days with everything installed properly.

I have read that part of the FAR's before but for some reason it just made more sense to me now. The IA did not charge me a dime to review anything, the only logbook entry that came under scrutiny was because of wording. One of the previous owners wrote "removed engine, overhauled engine per rotax specifications, reinstalled engine". The DAR let it slide but because it a a major modification and he did not own nor was licensed as a Rotax Major Repair Facility he cannot use the term "overhauled". Either way it was all resolved and it was free.

One should also remember that anything not installed in the aircraft when weighed for weight and balance needs to be listed on your equipment list with weight and arms recorded for each recording. Aircraft should be completely assembled for weight and balance, why list your seat and turtle deck on a equipment list?