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I also like to take some pictures of various aircraft details. Here are just a few. I was too busy this time to take very many.
Super STOL:
brakes
Aileron hinge
Flap track
Joint between Slats
Tailwheel
Trim
Wing tip
Gas tank
Sky Raider aileron pulley and cable
I've got some more, but they are on my phone. I'll see if I can get them uploaded some time.
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Here are a few pictures I took. Wish I had taken a lot more.
Super STOL
B-25
Corsair (my favorite warbird)
T-28
Sky Raider
Questair Venture
(side note: I read a magazine article about the Venture, and the author said that he thinks someone saw a cartoon drawing of an airplane and thought it was an engineering drawing
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Ford GT (not an airplane, but pretty cool)
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Robert - Just curious why you would opt for the B box over a C box? I understand the weight penalty but the C box allows improved torsional vibration dampening and 2x the prop weight mass inertia, a requirement if you will ever use a larger diameter or heavy Warp prop IMHO. After trying multiple prop/gearbox combinations, the original builder of my KF3 removed his 2.58 B box in favor of a 2.62 C box w/ 68" 3-blade and never went back.
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I have a set of Kitfox/Grove maingear mounts that Skystar used on models 5,6.7. for the 4 5/8 wide 1550 GW gear. This is the type that has nylon radius inserts. Anyone interested can PM me for info / photo.
Also have a set of 3 Cessna wheelpants for sale.
EDMO
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Thanks Leni,
Just had to make an unforeseen engineering change - cutting tubes, and heading back to weld shop! Time - and Time Again!
EDMO
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TW-101. 6"solid wheel.
I'll toss it on here before ebay
$205 shipped. OBO
Text me for pics.
225 two hundred 5966
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Wisdom learned from years of experience:
Building your own plane without using someone's plans or a kit is like buying an engine and making all the parts to build your own car instead of bolting together all the parts the manufacturer made.
Your cost in time is 1000 times the cost of buying one already built, but you made it "your way"!.
You may learn a lot while designing and building, but the best wisdom should be displayed in the name of your plane: "NEVER AGAIN"!
EDMO
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Great pictures and great story Doug! I would love the opportunity to sit down and hear some of the stories first hand. I will never forget an airshow I went to in Arizona where a guy was reunited with the very B24 he flew in the war. He was emotional, the crowd was emotional and the look on his face as he climbed in, fired up, taxied out and did a few high speed passes over the runway was the highlight of the airshow for me. He was flying right seat but the CAF pilot said he never touched the controls once, the old guy did it all and flew it like he had just been on a mission the day before. Way cool to see the spark in old folks eyes as they get to relive the glory days!
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Just a note about that pic...
WASP (Women Airforce Service Pilots), the first women to fly American military aircraft volunteered to serve the United States as pilots for the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II, and ferried planes across the country, test-flew new and repaired aircraft, trained both ground and air-to-air gunners, and any other duty their nation asked of them. They also served as test pilots for experimental aircraft, including remote piloted aircraft (predecessors to today's "drones") and the early jet powered aircraft prototypes being developed.
I was speaking to WASP Jean McCreery, age 91 or 92. Jean is sharp as a tack with a wonderful sense of humor, and was recounting her ride in a P51 Mustang the day before. The pilot asked if she would like him to do any particular maneuver, to which she answered "Chandelle", and proceeded to explain and gesture with her hand to make certain I knew what the maximum performance maneuver was. When I asked if she enjoyed her ride, she said "Hell yes!", but was a bit disappointed because the pilot failed to finish the maneuver correctly. You see, she confided in me, every night for the past 70 years before falling asleep she relives in her mind those perfect Chandelles she learned to do in her Stearman, AT6 and P51 trainers.
FYI: And to earn the coveted WASP wings, they had to be perfect in every type flown. Not an easy task. In total, these brave women flew 78 different aircraft, carried out over 12,000 assignments and logged over 60 million miles of flying between 1942-1944. While 25,000 women applied to the program, in the end, 1,830 were accepted into the rigorous flight training program and 1,074 of them received their silver wings. Only 13 WASP, known as "The "Lucky 13", were offered the opportunity to earn multi-engine ratings and regularly flew B17 Flying Fortress, B24 Liberator, B25 Mitchell and B26 Marauder Widow Maker bomber and C47 transport plane missions. Two WASP were checked out and flew the B29 Super Fortress, a particularly difficult rating as no two B29s were alike.
Like the Tuskegee Airmen, recognition of the WASP was slow to come. Thirty-eight lost their lives in service, yet WASPs received no official recognition or honors when disbanded in 1944. Finally recognized as veterans in 1977 and honored with the Congressional Gold Medal in 2010, the service of the WASP is still largely unknown to most Americans, and ignored in most history books. Only 200 or so of these extraordinary aviators remain alive and I have had the honor of meeting and visiting with nearly two dozen in intimate, private settings during the past 10 years. They were in their service time, and remain today, extraordinary individuals. Three years ago I helped Jean into a SeaBee at the seaplane base and she proceeded to do T&G's on Lake Winnabago despite a 30-year hiatus at the controls of a plane. Another year, we splashed down to the local lake home of a Lucky 13 WASP friend and delivered her to OSH in a Grumman Widgeon. At 90+ y.o., she was rock solid at the controls in the right seat and I will never forget the look of elation on her face as she was dancing through the clouds once again. Seeing and recognizing my WASP friends will always be the highlight of my AirVenture trips.
More history here: http://wingsacrossamerica.org ; http://fifinella.com
Note: 2014 Pasadena Tournament of Roses parade WASP float celebrating their service and ground-breaking accomplishments! --- NATIONAL TROPHY WINNER --- fund raising for final payment still needed, please contribute HERE if you can.
Thanks!
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(The 801 hybrid is actually a Tapanee Levitation 4. A 4 seat version of the Pagazair.
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Nice collection of pics, Joey. Thanks for posting them. As others have said, after you've been to a bunch of them you tend to forget to take pictures anymore. You sure got around and captured the essence of Oshkosh. Thanks!
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The best way to ship something like this that's bulky, but not real heavy is with Grayhound bus service. I was told last week, that it cost about $60 to ship a cowl from out west to Mn. They said it wasn't much difference in price for 200 miles or 1000 miles. Might be something to look into. Jim Chuk
PS when I got my Jabiru / Avid cowl it came this way. Price then was $50. That was about 6 yrs ago.
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Have him print several of these for handing out to his friends, too.
Taylor made this. He said he was going to laminate it and keep it in his wallet...
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Luke,
I cant understand why the shipping would be so high - I shipped a Kitfox 4 Grove spring gear with wheels and brakes to New Jersey UPS in a huge box for 1/2 that price. I also had a Kitfox 5 Grove gear with wheels, brakes and tires shipped to me all assembled from California by truck freight for $160.
EDMO
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800 2-stroke in a Mosquito Heli
Dean Wilson Ellipse
Check out the strut fairing
Bob Barrow with the LSA Bearhawk. I camped with him in Idaho a few years back. Was nice to see him again.
Snaps in his Micro Mong
DHolly chatting with one of the WASP ladies. Her stories were awesome!!
Sloshkosh..watching people trying to pull their campers and motorhomes out of this was a great pastime
The Avidfoxflyers gathering. C5Engineer, Av8erSed, Lostman, LukeD, who else did I miss Larry?
Larry preparing to depart on Sunday
Couldn't get out of there without getting soaked one more time at Arty and Ed's with the Kreuger family.
That cell rained down some carnage on the field...not sure if any airplanes were damaged but the porta pottie guys had a miserable job ahead of them! They were on their sides all over the field.
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EAA Airventure 2014 is in the books. I don't really know how to describe it. I thought everyone was exaggerating while telling me what it's like but I'm here to tell you it's HUGE!! It's all I expected and so much more! I don't even know where to start....
I started meeting people that were going in Minneapolis during my layover. Everyone had a story and everyone a common aviation interest. I was chased down several times because of the T-shirt I was wearing or my Backcountry Pilot hat. I met probably 15 people there that I had previously only known online including the original builder of N279AF and many reputable names in the industry... Randy Schlitter of Rans, George Happ of Matco, Phil Lockwood of Lockwood Aviation, John McBean of Kitfox, Troy Woodland of Highlander and the list goes on and on. I was also fortunate enough to get to sit and have a conversation with Frank Knapp the Valdez STOL guy and Bobby Breeden 3 time Valdez winner along with Joe Pops Dory and Steve Henry both of hich I've camped in Idaho with. There was also the WASP ladies, Bob Hoover, Kenny Loggins....I think you get the idea.
Hmm what other highlights... The largest ever gathering of Lockheed Electras, insane night aerobatics, explosions that would cut you off mid sentence from the percussion, countless forums and workshops, the runway 5K which I came in 55th out of almost 1100 with a time of 21:51, a Bell 47 heli flight....it goes on and on. It was an insanely busy week but well worth the 6-7 miles a day of walking.
Special thanks to Larry and Doug for taking care of me by giving me a place to stay, introducing me to awesome people, some rather interesting people, feeding me, and providing plenty of cold beverages. It was great to meet everyone. Like I said I could write for days about my experience.
Here is a link to the Album
http://s192.photobucket.com/user/NKAWTG/library/Oshkosh%2014
And some of the highlight pictures
Bobby Breeden's Certified Cub
Frank Knapps Lil Cub...This thing has a trick up it's sleeve everywhere you look
Just some of the stuff you see in the camping area
A CH801 Hybrid
Dick Rutans Bush Plane Concept plane from years ago. Check out the gear...pre Alaskan Bushwheels
The most photographed sign ever this week
Rans S20
Barely a third of the field
Viking motor in a Just escapade
Little waterspout action
Bell 47 selfie
Larry watching over us during the storm
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I took several pics of the install I will post them when I get around to going thru my pictures.
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Luke that occured earlier in the week on Mon-Wed out on the main runway. What we watched was just them playing.
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I just saw this:
Everyone who came to Larry's Oshkosh get together on Friday went over and watched the STOL competition afterwards. I didn't even realize they were giving the pilots official scores. It looked more like an exhibition. Looks like Frank Knapp and the "Lil Cub" got the top score.
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They have Cats in Alaska - One year before I left, a cat operator dug up a 22 lb gold nugget - really made the headlines!
EdMO
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Being in Canada requires an advanced ultralight pilot licence for an Avid. This is a whole lot less expensive than a private or recreational class license. You should be able to line up ultralight(up to 1234 lbs. gross) training pretty reasonably here in Canada. Many good schools for around $110-120 per hour. They say you can earn the license in about 20 hours. You don't really know how to fly after that but it's a start. Check on upac site for flight schools and get at it! There is no time like the present! B
The short "official training program" is why I want to buy the plane before I take the lessons. It can only help if my training is in the plane that I will ultimately be flying. It seems crazy to me that after 20 hrs of total air time, they let you loose with license in hand!! A friend of mine has a Rans Courier TD, so I can get lots of "unofficial" training between lessons and lots of co-pilot time before I really fly solo. I can likely save a few bucks in lesson cost in my own plane, but I don't really care about that....i just want as much seat time as possibe in the plane I will fly.
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Finally getting caught up enough with everything at home as well as unpacking, to get online. A huge thanks to all the AFF crowd I was fortunate to meet this past week. Doug and Larry, thanks for hosting at your campground. My wife and I are already seriously considering another trip. Who knows what's in the cards for us both and where well be next year. At least this year was a stellar vacation and we both really enjoyed it.
For those that asked about Karla's pictures, I'll let you know where she posts them once she has them organized and up. She took over 4,300 pictures in one week, and some of them are absolutely spectacular, especially the night fireworks and airshows.
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Material for making ribs ?
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dholly
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According to John Larsen, "Avid originally used a 9 ply about 6mm plywood made in Finland at great expense. Kenny Schreader, when he ran Sky Raider, went to US cabinet grade maple veneer 7 ply which was 5/16 as I recall. I have not heard of any Sky Raiders falling out of the sky due to faulty plywood. The shrunken fabric holds the wing together, so use a plywood you feel comfortable with."
IIRC, KF 1-3 used aviation grade Mahogany 9-ply w/ 90*degree ply layup for rib webs, and either aviation grade Spruce or Birch 5-ply for cap strip material. If you opt out of the oem or ACS aviation grade rib or cap strip material, seek out Grade 1 or AA Marine birch ply as it will have 90*degree ply orientation, higher quality sanded face veneer, no core voids plus a fully waterproof structural adhesive. Birch is also stronger than mahogany or spruce, I used a 1/8" Marine grade birch 5-ply for my floorboards sourced from a local specialty lumber yard, it would probably work fine as cap strip material too.
Just a thought, what if you used a waterproof glue and carefully laminated together two layers of locally sourced 1/8" Marine grade birch 5-ply ie., less expensive than the ACS rib material but more than adequate strength wise? Don't recall what it cost but it wasn't terribly expensive and no shipping cost.