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[i am using the stock ECM and CCU. We worked with the cat factory a few years ago and got the fuel map dialed in for our clean fuel etc. so it has been re-flashed and the map really is spot on]
thanks for the reply.... very good info. I don't have a lot of experience with.2 strokes so this is good for me to know I had looked at the latter model engine and thought that it was a better engine. does this engine power the fuel injection from the stator coils or are they powered from a battery?
how are you coming along on adapting the gearbox on?
thanks Bob
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Okay I was exaggerating on the actual post number. When's the last time you saw any real Avid tech on there besides John Larsen's awesome story? The last few topics I can think of were people selling stuff and a 5 day argument on how big of a trailer someone needed.
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Maybe an error on your end Joey, I show recent activity and just posted there.
You got him there Doug... The digest from yesterday has one new topic and 2 replies. on penetrating oil... no, not the kind you buy at the local sex shop...
Tuesday there was 5 messages posted
The group is not really very lively and has not been for close to a year. I used to have multiple digests a day from the group each with 20+ messages in them. There is a lot of knowledge on the group and in the files there, but the format sucks
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There's only been about 3 posts in the past 2 weeks. I think it's days are numbered.
Maybe an error on your end Joey, I show recent activity and just posted there.
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akflyer what ecm are you using on your 800?
thanks Bob
I am using the stock ECM and CCU. We worked with the cat factory a few years ago and got the fuel map dialed in for our clean fuel etc. so it has been re-flashed and the map really is spot on.
In looking at the pictures, I am not so sure that is a girl on Rotary wing! If so, she will give our Kodiak Buffalo women a run for their money!
I thought many times about using one of my FI 600 engines, but at the end of the day, we have had too many issues with them. The 800 is a dual plug engine that has good SMOOTH low end grunt and is very happy all day long running in the 6000-6800 RPM range. If I run it the way I run a 582, I am looking at 112-118 HP at take off and double the TQ of the 582. If I want to run it to 7800-7900 I can pull 140 HP easily on take off.
The 600 does not make crap for power till it hits 8000+ RPM. my sleds are set up for CC racing and if I take them into the mountains its a bitch cause they wont hold the RPM. The second that engine falls below 78-7900 I better be turning out and headed back down hill.. I hate having to turn out because I cant keep the track spinning
At the end of the day, you may get a 600 to give you SOME time in the air, but I dont think it will hold up to the constant use. The 06-09 800 engines have been absolutely bullet proof with ZERO issues of customers bringing them into the shop for ENGINE repairs... There have been plenty of chassis repairs, but nothing Engine or Stator related at any of the Cat shops I deal with or have contacted.
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We have had quite a few new members sign up here. We have a ton of lurkers everyday, but the registered members are steadily climbing.
The YH group is a lot like the other two sites... Normal grumpy old men...
This is our site
Ours may be grumpy, but damn do we have fun too!
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cmon now... is it really that bad? It is comedy. What is more fun than giving rednecks guns and powder and telling them to do something stupid. I would much rather watch DD than CSI, Bones or any of those other shows that our wives watch trying to figure out the perfect way to get rid of us
Damn, do ya hate baseball and hot and hot apple pie too
At the end of the day, it's kind of a modern "leave it to beaver". Every other word is not bleeped out, it is pretty funny, and they promote God, Guns and Family.. In this day and age, I would say its one of the better of the reality shows out there.
But this is just my humble.. sort of
... opinion. The great thing about this place is we can all disagree and still be friends You may be wrong, but I will still call ya a friend hahahahahahaha. -
My wife get's way to excited about that show. I'm thinking I need to grow a beard or something.
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Bob / Tbucket - I know what Leni is talking about - But have no clue about what you are writing about - Are you sending that to another ED?
EDMO
I was talking about a guy on the rotary wing forum that had put an arctic cat engine on her gyro and used a rotax b gearbox on it I think Leni is doing basically the same thing putting a rotax c gearbox on a latter arctic cat 800 engine I am considering doing this but with the earlier arctic cat zr 600 engine sorry for the confusion I am interested in the adapter plate that he is having made and what ecm {engine control unit for the fuel injection} he is using by the way how are you doing today?
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Bob / Tbucket - I know what Leni is talking about - But have no clue about what you are writing about - Are you sending that to another ED?Ed, I got a picture a couple days ago of the almost completed adapter plate for the 800. As soon as Dave completes that and gets the fly wheel machined, I can start the engine mount and exhaust mods.
akflyer
what engine are you talking about I might have ask this before.....I don't remember.... I have been looking at the Arctic cat engines.they have a Suzuki engine that they came out about 2010 I believe it is a cf 800 ho engine the later engines has 2 plugs per cylinder it is fuel injected with an ecu the engine looks real promising if I was to use this engine I would have to go the route that you are doing making an adapter plate and dealing with taper on the crankshaft but I believe that it would be worth it because the engine is still in production and you can get parts for it.There is a girl on the gyro site that is using a arctic cat 500 on her gyro and it seems pretty impressive the engine she is using has a smaller crankshaft I believe it is a 30 mm taper similar to the rotax sized crankshaft are you keeping notes on what you are doing to fit the gearbox up?
thanks Bob
EDMO
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The information there can be good sometimes, but I always hated the format.
The new format, if it is actually possible, is worse.
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... watched five minutes of Duck Dynasty. That's all I could take.
Where in the hell do they get this shit that is on TV these days??
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Joey,
Tried climbing it once. Got stormed off the mountain at 10,000 ft. Had to go back down.
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on one of my phantoms I had a 503 free air DCDI with a tuned pipe,..can't remember the name of the pipe but man that thing would snap you back and hang on the prop if you wanted ,..if your into aerobatics without worry of your ship coming apart..the phantom is a great platform
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gotcha..most of my 2 cycle rotax were free air,..I only had one inverted mount on a quicksilver that had the fan and duct work
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but in my mind heat rises,..so an upside down engine isn't using the fins on the head to cool much heat,..its going into the block
That would only kick in when you shut the engine down and don't have any airflow. The ducting routes cooling air through the fins whether its right side up or upside down (on an air cooled engine)
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I think the original inverted engine was like Chase said.. to clear the exhaust and to get the trust line where Dean wanted it, yet keep the cowling low. The visibility is MUCH better over the cowling on an Avid verus a Kitfox because of the inverted engine and the cowling clearances.
I think with my conversion due to the lay down design of the engine, I can get it all stuffed in the cowling with the engine right side up and maybe only lower the thrust line about 1/2" I can live with that!
As far as the year range of engines for conversion... 06-09 on the AC 800 engine. This has the larger crank in it that is oh so smooth. The 10 and up have the lighter crank that gives you the "Harley" shake and you have to run premium gas in them. I do remote flying where there is no premium gas for 100's of miles, and adding octane boost to an unknown rating already is a crap shoot on keeping it from burning down.
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but in my mind heat rises,..so an upside down engine isn't using the fins on the head to cool much heat,..its going into the block
Looking for storage dimesions, garage space requrements.
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kauaicuda
Posted · Edited by kauaicuda
Hi folks.
Im seeking some measurements of an Avid or Kitfox IV with the wings folded. Width, and length from spinner to tail.
I'd like to see if I can fit one in my garage.,
Thanks for the help.
Robert