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Scheduled for a noon departure. Didn't have to unload it.
How the F#$^K can a competent air crew not be able to tell the difference between an Airforce Base and a non towered local airport. WTF was up with the on board nav systems? HOW THE HELL DID THEY DO THIS
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My father was with me when I bought a Cessna 140 as my first plane. The seller had bought a PA-18 so the little Cessna had to go. During the purchase we were chit-chatting when the seller mentions this, and the response from my father was, "Eh, they're a little over-rated. Shoulda spent your money on something else". The seller was a little taken aback. I don't think that he had ever heard someone say something bad about a cub before. And my father was not really knocking the cub on it's abilities, just the price that people pay for them.
I guess that if you can afford something like a carbon cub, knock yourself out. It would be interesting to see how much money the factory makes from selling a new plane; probably not as much as one would think.
There's a carbon cub parked at the gravel strip at Merrill Field. Nice looking plane, but that's alot of money to leave sitting outside. A person could probably buy a mid-level cub and the hangar to put it in, for less than a new carbon cub.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to fly something like a carbon cub. But for some reason I think that Avids, Kitfoxes, Zeniths, etc are a little more interesting.
-Nate
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/travel/kansas-cargo-plane-wrong-airport/
A light 747 shouldn't have any issue getting off the ground in 6000ft. They will probably have to defuel and unload it though. I just don't understand how this happens. When coming down final one would think you could tell the difference between a municipal GA airport with a tiny ramp and Cessnas tied down vs. a massive Air Force Base with a 12,000ft runway and a collossal ramp covered with big grey jets. That field didn't even have a tower. How did the Tower never notice that after clearing them to land there was never a plane in view. Unless it was totally IMC you an see a planes landing light on a 20 mile ILS final.
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Anyone catch the news that a 747-400 Dreamlifter converted to haul cargo, bound for an Air Force Base in Texas, landed instead on the wrong airport 12 miles away?
They need 9000 feet of runway to take off - This airport runway is a little over 6000 feet.
Want to buy a dismantled Fat 747? Bring truck and trailers!
EDMO
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Cmon!!! FOLKS!!!
bring your favorite pics here, this is getting better and a better......
all this encouraging pics will help me make it through the winter!!
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Thanks for the numbers Leni and Chris, the numbers we came up with are a little off your guys,mine are 8.90 to 12.51,and it looks like we need 12 lbs of weight on the tail according to my buddy who built a few planes already. I like Ed' s idea of the JD for weight lol
No matter what your engine or equipment weighs, your AC (Aerodynamic Center) of the wing will not change - The AC of the Avid / Kitfox wings are at 25% of the © chord, (But, is that figured at 43 inches, or include the flaperons and use 51 inches?), and your maximum forward and aft CGs should be about 15%C and 33%C, but I am not sure what % Avid and Kitfox uses -
so whatever the manual says should be your limits - You cant change that - Please check it out again before flying.
A gallon jug of JD should weigh about 10 pounds - Please don't put any lead in it......
EDMO
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Thanks for the numbers Leni and Chris, the numbers we came up with are a little off your guys,mine are 8.90 to 12.51,and it looks like we need 12 lbs of weight on the tail according to my buddy who built a few planes already. I like Ed' s idea of the JD for weight lol
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Ed, it is in the files and forms section.
I realize that Leni - just wondered if it could be put into print and added to "History of Avid"?
EDMO
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Everyone has their "dreams" - If your money is unlimited - which I have never dreamed - then you can own a nice 15 karet orange piece of glass for a lot of million$, or some really UGLY paintings that just sold for $142 million, or a $240K experimental, or a $10K homebuilt to take you away from the rat-race to your place of enjoyment.
For some, the joy is not in the "buying", but in the "doing", like the guys that get the most out of the flying they can afford.
Then, there are a very few that aren't happy with what someone else has designed, and spend all of their time "rolling their own".
IMO, to each their own, to fly away with their dreams and joys, and not to be judged by others.
EDMO
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I don't know Bret but sometimes when a personal tragedy comes it will affect you for a long time I know because of experience.It took me a couple of years to recover from it. so give him some space to get his feet back on the ground I am not asking for pity for me... just give him some space and help him to get back on track
thanks Bob
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It is maybe a little thicker than West epoxy so I would say medium epoxy. It will flow fairly easy.
One more question, or Three - Did you rattle screws around in the tank first? How many and did you get them all out? Should the screws be stainless pointed type in case some are left in the tank? I know that method is also used on aluminum tanks.
Thanks,
EDMO
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I saw Brett today and got my parts.
I again offered to help with communications and he is thinking about it.
His story is one of ongoing family issues and tragedy all this past year, which I won't go into, other than to say it is true and was quite a slog for him personally. I don't say this as an excuse for him, but that is his story. He told me he is hoping to catch up with his message backlog in the near future and reorganize the business going into the new year as a fresh start.
I wish him well, but fear he has such a damaged reputation this may be impossible, now.
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I am looking for the B-C series mount at this point. I would be interested is your mount. PM me and we can work out a deal.
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It is maybe a little thicker than West epoxy so I would say medium epoxy. It will flow fairly easy.
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I think that Joey should put this in the files and forms as an addition to the "History", if that is possible.
EDMO
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I put the Caswell in my tanks when new before installing them. Results unknown, I burn mogas that is alcohol free in my 912. Using the Caswell phenol novolac epoxy in tanks that are installed in the wing would not be an easy tasks but it is doable. With the tanks before they were installed I was able to see that I had complete coverage but that is not possible once they are in the wing. I have no worries about alcohol in the fuel if I am forced to use gasohol sometime in the future.
Paul,
It might help me and others to know what the viscosity of the Caswell is - Is it close to water or closer to thick epoxy?
EDMO
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I believe John, has a very large data base that we could all benefit if published in the right way,
He has also experimented with drag reduction, in few places on the AVID.
he was skeptic about the VG´s under the wing when I first published this report on the yahoo group long time ago, but I can see he really pay attention to the fact that this little tiny THINGS, help keeping the airflow attached to a surface and or oriented in our benefit!
I´m trying to get the old messages with his reports and findings, but that freaking new format is driving me mad, it always comes the AD screen and won´t let me go further!!!
ANY chance we can get the exact locations of the VG on the wing tip, and what does this means for the performance!!
Regards
Dimi3
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With an office full of mechanical engineers, very nice lobby, and a production floor that definitely had some process control and quality, the factory's plant had a lot invested in it, and all that costs $ in the end product for sure. It was basically a JV version of what I saw at Quest up in Sandpoint.
Why they put all that effort in a cub ... in Yakima?! I think someone was thinking how can they sell the simplest craft to the highest market at the lowest cost.