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I can give you some photos and will take measurements when you need them.

Just send me a PM with your email address and let me know what you need.

It looks like a booger to build, especially because the bolts mount vertically. Mine is a real MF'er to bolt on and it was factory made.

Let me know...thanks,

Ron

So what are we looking at?  Aluminum tank?

Ran across this ad on Barnstormers today. Is this fellow an AFF forum member per chance?

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AVID/KITFOX WING TANK FIX • TELL YOUR FRIENDS • I have the answer to your leaky fiberglass wing tanks! Contact me @ 559-871-5001 • Contact Gary M. Chapman located Chowchilla, CA USA • Telephone: 559-871-5001 . • Posted May 21, 2014

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How about a Pacer/Tripacer mount to modify?  I'd bet those can be found easily… 

Thanks Larry. That's good to know. We had kind of ruled him out anyway just because I haven't heard much about anyone getting anything from him recently.

If anyone has any detailed pictures or information on a Magnum/Lycoming mount, I'm sure my friend would appreciate it since it will just about be a scratch build project for him.

Thanks guys, yeah it all kind of snowballed. I started out looking for a turn coordinator and a heading indicator so I could fly at night, and discovered that the dynon Efis was cheaper and lighter. Then I decided to go with the Dynon Ems to take care of the engine instruments. Then the old gps would have looked out of place, and I didn't like the look of the old toggle switches and breakers, and before I knew it I was redoing the whole works.

I'll be doing a new weight and balance once I get everything installed, I am indeed hoping that it will be a couple of pounds lighter than before. It's getting really close to being my dream airplane, I just need a set of bushwheels, a decent tailwheel, and an inflight adjustable prop.

Lostman,

       Try Shapiro Metals, on Natural Bridge Road, St. Louis, MO - That is where I buy all of my aluminum and steel materials - They are usually 1/2 price of Spruce, but check Spruce catalog for a comparison of prices - Make sure you get T6.

       After crossing the bridge, you go north/west? on I-70 and turn off at Union, the next offramp after Kingshighway - Left on Union to Nat. Bridge, and turn right and a few blocks up on right you will see a red sign, turn into the small fenced parking lot at the sign.

       These are friendly people - I have done business with them for years.

       What about Wicks?   Probably higher than Shapiro tho.

EDMO

My friend built his "Kitfox" wings for his hybrid with locally sourced aluminum tubing and Kitfox sourced internal "I" beams - meaning he used the .0625" wall.   Remember Kitfox used this material for up to a 1550 gross weight.  There are probably 5x as many Kitfox wings flying now as Avids at higher speeds and heavier weights.  Still there has never been an in-flight failure of the wing structure.

Avid used the heavier material, with a plywood (?) internal brace.

Most any steel / metal supply house can get this tubing.  It's nothing special.

I spent about an hour and a half going through what is good vs. bad wreckage today. I found out that the right wing had been bent to about a three degree angle upwards from the strut mounts out. I really thought I had a viable set of wings. This changes the game a lot. After stripping off the fabric I see that there is no damage to the spars other than the slight bend. It's sad since most of the rest of the wing is untouched. The wingtip and flaperon took the brunt of the damage and absorbed most of the impact. The tip from the rear spar forward is even untouched.

One thing that completely surprised me is that the right wing was built with 2.5 x .10003 6061 T6 aluminum. Meaning that John must have sourced the material and had to rebuild that wing at one point. I'm not sure why it was even rebuilt other than he told me the wing tip met with the hangar door once, but it was contained to the tip only....really strange. The left wing is the .083 tubing.

The left wing is undamaged other than it needs new fabric, mainly from loading, unloading and transport. The guy that picked up the wreckage and moved it so the FAA could look it over didn't take any precautions at all and it was punctured and the fabric banged up in several areas. As well as the pitot tube being complete bent over.

I also realized last night that I don't have the turtle deck and that means I'm down the antenna for the comms. Not sure what happened to that, I'm guessing the guy transporting it kept it as a souvenir, but I really don't know. I do know it was there when I took the wings off before he got there to transport it.

Does anyone have a source for the 2.5" tubing? I've looked quickly online and don't see anything over the .065 wall. If I'm going to rebuild I'd rather have the heavier stuff. I realize I could probably go through Kitfox, but would rather not have to go that route if I don't absolutely have to. At least I have all the hardware and a lot of the ribs if I rebuild. Just a little let down that the spars are unscratched but bent. Kind of a bummer after thinking I could rebuild a fuselage and recover wings then be good to go again.

*IF* you can get a hold of Brett, I don't think he will be of any help.  I don't think he has any tooling for the Magnum or Amphib line.

Thanks Ed, but he's building a tail dragger.

If he wants a nose-gear for the Piper engine mount, I have one off of a Tri-Pacer.   I think it may be the same as the Cherokee.

EdMO

Yeah, the engine is off a Cherokee, and comes with the Piper Dynafocal mount. If he can't find another solution, he will have the mount modified to bolt to the Magnum. We just thought it couldn't hurt to ask if some one happened to have one.

If the Magnum firewall does not fit a popular certified Lycoming motor mount, then maybe he should buy a mount and modify his fuselage to fit it, or modify the mount to fit the plane.  or TRY to contact Brett.....

I modified my Kitfox firewall to fit a Subaru mount off of a Pelican.

EDMO

I've got a friend that is finishing up a Magnum project. He is at the FWF point, but still has not been able to find a motor mount. Does anyone have a Lycoming motor mount for a Magnum laying around?

Thanks,

Luke D.

Randy, that helps, thanks.

I think the fuselage that Ed has is a good starting point I will just have to look it over and see where to go with it. I'm hoping to get it from him this week if we can make our schedule work out. I know the firewall isn't finished and it was fairly cold when I was there last time so I didn't look it over too closely. It is still cheaper than working from scratch and I'm hoping I can make it work for these wings and struts. Amazingly the struts were undamaged. I still need to strip them off to double check them as well. I know that the left wing is undamaged, it's only the right one and main gear that I know will have to be replaced. The left gear is okay. I am seriously considering going to a bush type gear to save on weight though. Plus it would be cheaper for me to fabricate than to buy another one from Grove.

I appreciate the dimensions. Looks like your plane is pretty close to what I think Pursang was, plus maybe 2-4 inches, but with a lot more width in the cockpit. I sure wouldn't narrow it too much if I don't have to. I welcome a little more space even though Pursang was fairly comfortable for two.

Now to get a hold of Ed and pick it up!

Hi Kenneth,

I took some rough measurements of mine yesterday:

FW to rudder hinge is 15'-2"

FW to rear of rudder is 16'-9"

Width at shoulders is 44.5"

Width at panel is 42".

Was wondering if you could use the fusaglage that Ed has as a starter and could narrow it up at the cockpit if you wanted to and even shorten it if you wanted to get it dimensionally similar to the Avid+.  Seems like a lot of it may be already good to go and you could just modify it in the places you wanted?

I also agree ,that is really clean ,good job

I just looked up the power panel.. I really like that.  It is a very clean install and well laid out.  I may have to start saving the pennies for some of the items you have here.  Clean updated and clutter free.. I really like it!

Very clean! Love the simplicity of it all. I'd love to have a panel that clean with all the bells and whistles you will have when it's complete. Great job.

daaaaaamn, you dropped a little coin on the bird!  It looks great!  Did you weight the old versus the new?  I know your wallet is a lot lighter, but I bet the panel is a bit lighter too.

is your reader updated?  are you telling it to open it or to save it?  You may have to open it up, then save it to get it to work right.

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