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  1. akflyer


    Awesome post! My kids love flying with me from the time they were her age to now. My new one seems to not mind it, but like Ed ' s kids, she is asleep before I get to the runway. Getting the kids up in the plane and see those smiles is the best feeling ever! :BC:

  2. EDMO


    When mine were young we were doing x-country trips in a 172 and a Cherokee - both girls would go to sleep as soon as we left the ground, and not wake up until the tires squeaked on landing - unless that sudden, "Daddy, I've got to go" came from one of them, and there was a quick final to the closest runway.

    Guess if I would have had the Kitfox, they might have enjoyed the scenery.

    Great Post and pretty passenger Joey!

    BTW: The "Daddy - got to go" sure makes good practice for finding alternate airports and landing strips fast! Ha!

    EDMO

  3. C5Engineer


    I've taken my 5 year old up plenty of times in a rented Cessna but wasn't quite a 100% comfortable taking her up in the Avid until I knew for sure she enjoyed flight. The LAST thing I wanted to do was scare her when she was young. Today I took her with around the patch and she was having  a blast so we kept flying for a while. She loved doing climbs with a little pushover at the top. The bottom half of my doors are plexi so in a right turn your looking straight down. I did some real shallow turns to the right and she loved it and before I knew it we were doing steep turns to the left and she loved it! It's so cool to hear a 5 years old perspective from a birds eye view.  Landed on the grass next to the runway when we were done and before I even shut down she was asking when we were going again. I guess I have a new flying partner which is awesome. She only weighs 8 gallons of gas...perfect passenger! Anyone else fly with their kids?

     

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  4. EDMO


    Maybe the Magnum has thicker plastic than the smaller ones.

    Kitfox used .118 for windsheilds on one model (Speedster?) and it cracked more, so they went back to .090.

    If you read, I think AC43-13 (again), the cold bend radius for .090 Plastic,(Plexi - not lexan), is just about the radius of the windshield of our birds - If the Magnum is wider, then thicker plastic could be used. And, he has 1700 GW.

    EDMO

  5. dholly


    That seems really expensive Ron. I bought a 4'x8' sheet of .060" clear Makrolon polycarbonate from a local supplier for $60+tax yesterday. Of interest, they told me that the thinnest sheets of either polycarbonate or acrylic that come with 'baked-in' tinting was .125", twice as thick obviously. While it might have worked for a skylight, it was way heavier than necessary. Doubt you could finesse it on the door frames without a bunch of luck. I also learned about a few issues to be aware of if contemplating a D.I.Y. film tint on plastics, will start a new thread for that.

  6. dholly


    I was pretty surprised to hear this. Owner is a long time pilot, bought and flew the plane home solo from Idaho or Wyoming or somewhere way out west a few years ago. He flew the heck out of that plane, lotsa hours in it. Like Daves, an absolutely georgeous older Piper. Doesn't look serious enough for the scrap heap thankfully, I'm sure he'll rebuild.

  7. Av8r3400


    Ed - there are bad days and then there are BAD days. Guy in the hangar behind me had a BAD day this week...

    http://www.rochesterhomepage.net/story/d/story/small-plane-crashes-in-hopewell/26713/XB4quxPKlEWlQe4h8FtjOQ

    What a shame. For the life of me I don't understand why these guys think that bush tires operate the same as skis in snow. Wet sticky snow, even a couple inches deep, is like glue to tires.

    It is a good story he gave investigators about this happening on taxiing. That makes it an incident rather than an accident on takeoff or landing.

    A '46 PA-12 is a great old plane. The Super Cruiser, three seater. When my plane is finally out of his shop, Dave has one of these to build next.

  8. 1avidflyer


    I would check online, and with any local commercial window and door installer. I was just on Amazon, and found a .060 4' x 8' sheet for 103 + 15 shipping. How much do you really need? Unless your plane is bigger than a regular Avid, a half sheet does the windshield. The other half should do the windows easy. Jim Chuk

    PS, I suppose if you are doing the bottom of the doors and the turtle deck, you need a second sheet. You can use the old stuff for a pattern, install it with clekos so it comes off, then clamp it onto the new stuff, cut drill it and install. Hard to mess it up then.

  9. RDavidson


    KFfan,

    Valid point! I have traveled through the Texas Panhandle often, and the wind is always howling there. After a landing roll of about 10 feet because of the 30 knot plus wind, I asked a local crop duster what they do when the wind doesn't line up with a runway. He said that the pavement was just put there as a guideline, we land wherever we want!

    It is a valid point...don't set yourself up for failure landing in a crazy crosswind, go for a taxiway or the grass infield. Just don't hurt anyone else and you are good. I had never really thought about it like that before that experience.

    I apologize, I'm not answering the original question...I'll let someone with experience in your bird answer it.

    Ron

  10. RDavidson


    You read my mind Ed! I just priced it out and man is it expensive. About $400 for 2 sheets of clear and one sheet of tinted!

    You could get by with one and a half sheets of clear, but I thought I would leave a little for a mess up...

    You can bend it in a break! I'm glad you guys told me that!

    Thanks,

    Ron

  11. C5Engineer


    Going thru an Idaho withdrawal and digging up old vids. For the lurkers this is in a 582 powered Avid. Don't think for a minute these awesome little birds can't take you on a grand adventure. Feel free to contact me for details on how to go 1100nm and camp for 9 days under the wing of a 2-stroke powered avid.

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