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  1. EDMO added a post in a topic Avid Resale Values   

    I may be behind on the Kitfox inserts info - the last I saw was the KF5, and the inserts were not very long.Someone enlighten me on that, please.
    I have wondered if they changed thicknesses because of availability, or price?
    EDMO
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  2. akflyer added a post in a topic Avid Resale Values   

    your right Ed, it was a fat finger mistake... the HH has .083" spars.  Dont get me launching into the module of elasticity speech   I think alot of it may have been a fudge factor too (safety factor) as KF still uses .065" spars even in the 1500# planes, but they use the full length inserts too as I understand it.  The HH has a longer spar web, but not really that much longer than the normal wing.
     

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  3. EDMO added a post in a topic Avid Resale Values   

    I believe this is correctly advertised as .083, is that nitpicking? I wonder what the engineers determined was the difference in modular bending or whatever term they use for the strength of the two thicknesses? Could ,009 wall difference make that much difference?
    Mostly joking about the .083, but kind of serious about the engineers finding of strengths. Then again, how many of us understand engineer talk, unless they put it into layman terms, like how much weight will each hold? Then, we add the various stiffeners and webs into the equation, and strut strengths, and strut location, and what in heck do we have then? I guess if it flies, and you don't break it - you have an airplane!
    EDMO
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  4. akflyer added a post in a topic Avid Resale Values   

    The Model "C" and the rest of the Avids with the STOL wing used .065" spars, the Heavy Hauler used .085"...
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  5. akflyer added a post in a topic Avid Resale Values   

    Paul,
     
    I have not seen anything really giving market or resale value to the Avids or Kitfox lines.. It is a dog eat dog world and what ever the seller can get pretty much.
     
    The C model is not the same as the MK IV.  The MK IV has some improvements to the C model and the rounded rudder.  MANY people who were building the C models at the time the "D"/ MK IV came out made the change to the MK IF cowling and rounded rudder, but not the baggage compartment (small) or the access door in the side of the baggage area.  As they are homebuilts, a lot of builders picked and chose the upgrades they wanted to incorporate into the build. 
     
    There is a list on here some place that I think Doug posted from Steve Winder (the former Avid guru for many years at the factory) that detailed some of the differences in various models.  Even the Heavy Hauler I have seen listed gross weights from 1050-1200.  The paperwork that came with mine has 1085 on the sales brochure   But then again it also said it had 18 gallon tanks and a few other goodies that ARE NOT on my plane.
     
    It sounds like you and I would have the same model plane "C" HH.  I know what I have loaded mine to, but I did do a few mods when I was rebuilding mine.  I got mine as a basket case for 1500.00 and put another 10 into it including a new set of full lotus floats.  I have since dumped another 5 into it on EDO floats plus a stack of receipts that I refuse to add up doing little upgrades here and there.. Mk IV cowling, belly radiator, now the MK IV incowl radiators etc..
     
    Worst case the on the 582 is I would grab an 80.00 set of seals and gaskets and pull it down, new gaskets and seals all the way around, then put it in and fly it if the rest of the airframe is in good shape.  If it has been hangared, I would look for vermin infestation in the spars etc unless he did a good job of pickling it when he parked it.
     
    Feel free to PM me if you want, you dont have to worry about me trying to poach a buy on you, I am way to far away and the last thing I need is another project
     

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  6. Av8r3400 added a post in a topic Naked Avid   

    I have a buddy who did this with a ridge runner.

    The weight loss is minimal and the drag is great...
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  7. lv2plyguitar added a post in a topic Avid Resale Values   

    Model C just had the stol wing with smaller wall wing spar, less ribs, 5/8 strut.  The Mark IV Heavy Hauler should have the Larger Spar, More ribs, 7/8 strut.   I was a little misled when I bought mine because it was advertised as a heavy hauler.  It is to a degree.  The strut was upgraded to a 7/8 and the cowling was changed to a mark iv style and cheek radiators installed.  The only thing lacking to make mine a true heavy hauler is the larger spar and additional ribs.  So look at yours carefully before you assume anything and check its design with Airdale. 
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  8. akflyer added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    Jim,
     
    Thats only when the   aint hitting the fan and I can do some surfing on the site. 
     

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  9. allonsye added a post in a topic Avid Resale Values   

    My god man! You must be needing a different airplane or none at all if you're selling this. I'm need to stay near the 10k price point. Nice plane - fortunately wayyyyyy to far from me to even consider. Interestingly there does not seem many Avids on the market presently.  Is the MkIV the same as the C? They seem the same model from what I'm reading.
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  10. lv2plyguitar added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    Here is my weight and balance sheet.  This will help.
     
    Weight And Balance.pdf
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  11. lv2plyguitar added a post in a topic Avid Resale Values   

    I am selling mine.  Maybe this will help guide you.
    http://anchorage.craigslist.org/for/3920285493.html
     
     
    Thanks
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  12. allonsye added a topic in Avidfoxflyers General Hangar   

    Avid Resale Values
    Folks -
     
    Is there a definitive guide to pricing and values of an Avid? I'm getting close to closing on one and this perplexes me.
     
    In this case, I've come across a '93 C in the hands of it's builder who's had it stored since '99 and claims no damage history. It has 330 TTAF, 582 Gray is majored and still in it's shipping crate. Avionics consist of basic and a vintage Garmin 100. HH wings. It also has an IFA IVO prop, 14 gal fglass wing tanks. What would be the low-end price, what the high-end?
     
    I'm an A&P with time in Tcraft and PA140. Been out of flying for 20-yrs and getting back into the sport.
     
    If anyone has a favorite Avid Insp/Pre-Purchase inspection they'd like to pass on, I'd be grateful. I've search about the board - if I missed it (or pricing), apologies.
     
    Many thx,
    Paul in NC
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  13. rlmankins added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    Thanks, that gives me some hard# to play with.
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  14. 1avidflyer added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    Leni,  you keep beating me by 2 minutes with your replys!  We are both typing at the same time, but you're faster....   LOL  Jim
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  15. 1avidflyer added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    Just did some quick calculations, and looked at my WB.  It showed empty plane weighs 584, moment was 7071.5 for a CG of 12.10"  I used 415 lbs. for people at 16" back and 150 lbs. fuel at 33" back.  (I measured my fuselage, and the back of the seat tubing is 30" behind the leading edge of the wing so guessed at a tank of 6" thick front to back).  I end up with a CG of 16.24 with those numbers and total weight of 1149 lbs..  One problem, is you will have issues folding the wings with a tank behind the seat as well as fitting it in there and filling it with fuel.  Hope this helps.  Jim
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  16. akflyer added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    If you put 150# behind the seat, you can bet that the bugger will not be nose heavy, but she is gonna be tail heavy, not to mention the constant change in CG as you burn the gas off.  If you are that worried about it, just have him make a tank that will drop into your fiberglass tanks.  Cut the top out of the tank, slip the new one in, screw a lid back on like a cub.  This will keep the fiberglass tank as a structural member of the wing, yet eliminate the other issues that both the fiberglass and the aluminum tanks had/have.
     

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  17. rlmankins added a post in a topic Mk IV wing-fold time   

    I have the factory trailer. It is so easy to load. Back plane up to trailer, set tailwheel in ramp, hook up to boat winch. Pull on trailer, lock axles on trailer. Fold wings, drive off. Bought my airplane in Port Angeles, Washington. Loaded on trailer, drove 1300 miles home, everything happy.

    That being said, I have a hangar and I will be keeping it in there. I will be towing the plane when I go on vacation. Wife can shop and I can go exploring. The entire package weighs less that a 1000 lbs. Actually hooked it up to my Harley and pulled it to the gas station to fill up. Got some very strange looks.
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  18. rlmankins added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    I understand that each one is different. What I am specifically looking for is the effect of placing a fuel tank behind the seat. Am getting very tired of the fiberglass fuel tank discussions. Can have aluminum fuel tank made by a airplane machinist friend of mine very in expensively but am somewhat concerned about 150 lbs behind the seat.
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  19. 1avidflyer added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    Not sure what you gain from someone else's WB.  Unless their plane is identical to yours, it wouldn't apply to your plane.  Generaly speaking, most Avids with a 2 stroke engine are on the nose heavy side of the envelope.  Heavier engines make this worse.  Putting battery further back and such help to avoid adding extra weight to the tail.  If you just want the form. I can scan one of mine and get it to you,   Jim Chuk 
     
    PS  if you have the builder's manual, Section VIII-D chapter 8 walks you through doing the WB
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  20. akflyer added a post in a topic Weight and balance   

    99.9 %.... within an inch of the forward CG.
     

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  21. rlmankins added a topic in Avid Flyer General Hangar   

    Weight and balance
    Anybody have a weight and balance for a avid mk4 heavy hauler with a 582.  trying to work out some things before I get to far along.
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  22. rlmankins added a post in a topic Naked Avid   

    Just liked the look. If does not work out is easy enough to finish covering. Was really looking for any experience someone had flying one. Used to fly a quicksilver, think it might be similar. I guess I will give a report if I ever get done.
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  23. akflyer added a post in a topic Lunch at 68C   

    larry, your a sick and twisted man!   Maybe that is why you fit in here so well! 
     

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  24. EDMO added a post in a topic Zimmerman found NOT GUILTY!   

    Remember what happened in 1860 when they elected an Illinois lawyer!
    EDMO
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  25. EDMO added a post in a topic Prop Problems   

    I have suggested this to others - When the Cessna 150 was first converted to a "Texas Taildragger",
    They left the nosewheel on for students. That is always a cheaper option.
    I have some nosewheel info that I am happy to share with anyone interested.
    Guess I have gotten lazy in my old age - don't feel like fighting TD if I have a choice - so mine is definitely going to be a nosedragger. All I have to worry about is wearing out tail skids!
    EDMO
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