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thebriman added a post in a topic Storage alternative 9 Apr 2014

Brian, dholly posted the fiberglass belly pod I was talking about a few posts above this one.

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BSchoonmaker added a post in a topic Storage alternative 9 Apr 2014

Sorry folks, I just discovered the SEARCH function. Don't know why I did not see it previously. Duh!

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BSchoonmaker added a post in a topic Storage alternative 9 Apr 2014

I took a good look at the mod to the seat and side webs. Since my fuselage is bare it should not be much of a problem to add. Thanks for the heads up.

Brian T (Thebriman) told me that there was a fiberglass belly pod for an Avid but I had never seen it. For anyone needing additional storage it looks like a good thing to buy. Making mine was a PITA for sure but it is very light and aerodynamically cleaner than the glass one and it appears it will hold much more - but it has not yet been used in flight!! Maybe I will look at creating a glass version at some point in the future.

Other ideas I have are to convert the under camber airfoil into a Riblett 415 (ish) and offering a kit for it and a modification to the doors to make them more secure with a separate opening window. I will be flying with about $8K worth of instruments that I would like to have at the start of each flight. Anyone consider these ideas here and if so how do I find them?

Oh, by the way, you guys are far more interesting than the guys over on the Yahoo Avid site, but don't tell them! I like being able to imbed pictures with comments. It is very convenient.

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High Country added a post in a topic Storage alternative 9 Apr 2014

Just came across this add on barnstormers and he has the cargo pod you mentioned, If your interested it may be worth a shot seeing if he is willing to sell it separate from the rest of the plane http://www.barnstormers.com/listing_images.php?id=876832&ZOOM=cc2b83d4afe4dbb7cf6dcb67fd3a84c6

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SuberAvid added a post in a topic Sprayed Stewart Systems over the weekend 9 Apr 2014

That looks great! It will be exciting to see it take shape with the final assembly now.

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marshawk added a post in a topic Fat Avid weight and balance 9 Apr 2014

Yep its a left turner,im happy as long as it keeps turning,im using the same air filter as the lycombings I think, its sitting right on top of the TBI. I have some baffles inside the straight pipes and its not to bad at all,they say it doesnt sound louder than any other aircraft when im flying over

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SuberAvid added a post in a topic Storage alternative 9 Apr 2014

With the Avid+ I haven't really needed a belly pod either but the nice thing about a belly pod is you can put things in it that you really don't like having in the cabin with you....no, not your wife. I mean things like gas bags, dead critters, etc.

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EDMO added a post in a topic Fat Avid weight and balance 9 Apr 2014

Is that a Left-turning prop that is sticking way forward of where my right turner is? Do you have an air filter?
Are those strait pipes kinda loud?
EDMO

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EDMO added a post in a topic 582 low on power 9 Apr 2014

Good - Hope you have a nice flight.
EDMO

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marshawk added a post in a topic Fat Avid weight and balance 9 Apr 2014

Thanks Guys, Chris it is a crazy world for as many avid + that are out there and you ended up getting one also, I ended up making the firewall to fit the cowl,it is diffenently wider than what was intended for the avid plus but the upper half of the cowl was pretty close to the right width, the bottom half near the lower door area was a bit wider but it bends in enough to get sucked in and not be to noticable. The toughest part was the windshield flange, I cut off that area on the kitfox cowl and fiber glassed in a new flange to fit my windsheild. I kinda wish I would of raised the nose a bit more but it does give better visabilty being lower.

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Av8r3400 added a post in a topic Add to this and keep it going with 7-15 words 9 Apr 2014

â€¦ bent over and I forgot my name...

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dholly added a post in a topic Add to this and keep it going with 7-15 words 9 Apr 2014

...last thing I remember thinking was what the hell are the chances of this happening twice!?, just before she...

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Luked added a post in a topic Kitfox wings for Avid MK IV 9 Apr 2014

Thanks for the tip Ed. I'll refer back to this when I get to that point. Wouldn't want to get it upside down. I think I have a full scale drawing of the leading edge in the manual I got from Kitfox, so I could probably make the templates myself like you did.

Luke D.

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dynomike added a post in a topic 582 low on power 9 Apr 2014

put the gears in it today and it runs perfect, 6500 at 12 degrees pitch. ill be on the water this weekend.it should perform a lot better with extra 13hp.

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EDMO added a post in a topic Kitfox wings for Avid MK IV 9 Apr 2014

Luke,
     Before you get ready to glue the plastic leading edge in place, you want to make sure you have it right side up - there is a difference.    I copied the drawing out of the book and made some templates to use to get it at the proper location along the wing.
If you will PM your address, I will send you one to use as a pattern to make more - You need about 6 or 8, depending on how particular you are.
      Best way I have found is to use these to line up the plastic, and go on the bottom side of the plastic and tape securely all along the bottom - then remove the guides, bend the plastic down a little, and put the glue on - then put the guides back on and tape everything until the 9460 sets up - like next day.
     Hope this helps.
EDMO

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dholly added a post in a topic 582 low on power 9 Apr 2014

Good on you, I think it would have taken me a while to figure that one out.

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Luked added a post in a topic Kitfox wings for Avid MK IV 9 Apr 2014

Thanks guys. I assumed it must be an optional thing. I included the PVC extrusion in my list.

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EDMO added a post in a topic Kitfox wings for Avid MK IV 9 Apr 2014

Luke,
I forgot about the plastic leading edge attachment - I call it a Spar-Saver - well worth putting it on, IMO. This is not a covering for the top - just the front of the spar. It comes about 6 to 8 inches longer than the spar, so you can blend it in to tips.
EDMO

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dholly added a post in a topic Kitfox wings for Avid MK IV 9 Apr 2014

[edit] looks like Ed beat me to it!

Depends which model KF and exactly how you define "leading edge".

KF1-3 had no leading edge treatment to my knowledge. The Riblett airfoil first used on the KF 4 includes an extruded PVC leading edge extension, many retrofitted this extrusion to earlier KF and also Avid Flyers. Currently, KF offers the 'Laker Leading Edge' some kind of composite sheeting that covers and smooths the first 1/3 or so of the top airfoil surface, and is used in conjunction with the PVC extrusion. Aside from the PVC extrusion, I think 4-7 models simply depend on a copious amount of both upper and lower nose ribs. At one time, I do believe KF tried a fiberglass leading edge top sheet without the extrusion on early models but nixed it due to excessive oil-canning during wing flex. Same with Avid, but they used an aluminum leading edge top sheet which was in the Mk-IV construction manual.

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EDMO added a post in a topic Kitfox wings for Avid MK IV 9 Apr 2014

Luke,
     I should have added to "when struts get longer, the diameter needs to increase to prevent bending" - (and Gross weight increases.)   I would be interested in the price of the flaperon hinges and the rib attach fittings when you put your list in.
     The fiberglass front covering is optional - weight increases, but forgot how much.   I think the 12 inches of 1mm plywood on top, and the 6 inches on bottom, plus the glue, may have added 6 lbs - but forget now. Anyway, I needed it because I extended my leading edge 4 inches.
     Let me know anytime you have questions.
EDMO

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Luked added a post in a topic Kitfox wings for Avid MK IV 9 Apr 2014

Hey Ed,

Thanks for all the extra info. I just realized you added more. The more the better. It's all interesting. Everything you said makes sense to me. My thinking is not so much who is right, but what configurations are well documented, have been around a while, and have a successful track record in the field. I'll probably just go with a fairly conservative approach (stock MK IV structure). I don't want to be wondering if things are going to hold together down the road.

I've got one more question for any Kitfox experts. I saw some pictures of a KF wing being built, and it had a fiberglass leading edge. Is this standard, or an option? The build manuals I have don't have any mention of this that I noticed. I was hoping to keep things simple and light. In other words, just fabric on the leading edge. Thanks for any info you can give.

I spoke with Kitfox yesterday, and they told me to email my list of parts for pricing. Just waiting to hear back now. They are probably a little busy winding down form SnF.

Luke D.