Cloud Dancer

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  1. My point is the chemistry is different.  To call and treat a LiFe as a lithium ion or lithium polymer is not correct.  That is my point.  You call an apple and apple and an orange and orange.

    I'll give you it's a slightly different compound that's less of a fire hazard than other lithium battery compounds but it's still not a battery that can't catch on fire from extended over charging. He's got that setup to charge at lead acid battery voltages and rates. Fix that as I mentioned earlier and it might be worth a shot. The fire proof bags are so cheap and light weight that I don't see any reason to experiment without one. Unlike a car you can't pull over and pop the hood at first sign of smoke. Since many of the 2 strokes run without batteries just fine I think they show more promise over an engine that relies on a battery. Magneto systems would be another safe platform to test these with.


  2. these are not lipo batteries.  they are using LiFe PO4  that don't tend to explode or burn like the lithium ion or lithium polymers did / do.  

    The ones that are shown above also have built in changers so they will balance the cells and they are meant to be used in powersports applications.  If is works in a bike or snogo it will be fine in our birds running 2 strokes.

    :BC:

     

    Are you referring to the battery in the video? The battery in the video is indeed a Lipo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery

     

    You might want to go back and actually watch the video and see what it says on the battery when he opens the case....  LiFe PO4

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery


  3. these are not lipo batteries.  they are using LiFe PO4  that don't tend to explode or burn like the lithium ion or lithium polymers did / do.  

    The ones that are shown above also have built in changers so they will balance the cells and they are meant to be used in powersports applications.  If is works in a bike or snogo it will be fine in our birds running 2 strokes.

    :BC:

     

    Are you referring to the battery in the video? The battery in the video is indeed a Lipo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery

     

    You might want to go back and actually watch the video and see what it says on the battery when he opens the case....  LiFe PO4

    If you take the "Fe" and the "4" out of the info on the battery you get "LiPO" and that's why I included a link to the Lithium polymer battery. Lipo is a common abbreviation for Lithium Polymer batteries. And yes I did see it in the video and instantly recognized it as an RC hobby battery. The title of the video even states it's a Lithium battery. He also mentions a protective case for the battery. He flies RC so he has played with these batteries like many of us in the RC world. Yes the device has a built in charger but he's not using it. Nowhere in the video did he plug in an adapter to the charging port on the device. He snipped off the original electronics that may or may not have been designed to prevent charging from an electrical system. I can't see the component names or I may be able to back engineer what he snipped off. I do know with a direct feed to his airplane charging system his power pack will be getting constantly charged from the alternator charging system. At the very least I'd put a cheap charging bag around the whole unit such as one of these: https://www.banggood.com/search/protective-battery-charging-bag.html

     


  4. Fred, can you post up the part number for the mounts you ordered?

     

    I sure can...

    Paulstra 530903-21 / Barry Control 22002-11

    and as mentioned I will test when they arrive and post the outcome. They appear to be the right size, to be confirmed. And we will see about the hardness...

    I think you will be fine with the industrial models. I didn't give a specific part number mostly because I calculated what I needed. I took the total weight of my motor, propeller, gear box, muffler and starter and added it up and divided by 4 to give me the static load for each bushing. Then I browsed through the sizes I needed until I found one with the weight and size requirement. Is that the right way? Maybe, maybe not. An airplane in a flight can pull several G's and a heavier rated mount may be needed. There's a range to these things so I guessed using the static weight as the low limit. I also think you could slightly vary the mounts with two of a different density to play with dampening sub harmonic vibrations from the propeller at low rpm's. If you guess too high you defeat the purpose of rubber mounts and the vibrations get passed along to the air frame.

    Did you notice the video on the "Lord" mount website that had a camera watching the mount in an aerobatic airplane? The G forces do come into play on these mounts. A camera may be handy in finding the best rubber shore number for our type of aircraft.


  5. these are not lipo batteries.  they are using LiFe PO4  that don't tend to explode or burn like the lithium ion or lithium polymers did / do.  

    The ones that are shown above also have built in changers so they will balance the cells and they are meant to be used in powersports applications.  If is works in a bike or snogo it will be fine in our birds running 2 strokes.

    :BC:

     

    Are you referring to the battery in the video? The battery in the video is indeed a Lipo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery

     


  6. A 20 amp Lion battery would be a perfect match for our airplanes. The resistance is much lower than lead acid, so the start current can be massive. But the smaller batteries can’t hold that rush of current for long.

    Theres a YouTube video of a Kitfox guy who hacks the Harbor Freight to bypass the need to push its button on every start. He uses it as his only battery.

    Those of us that fly RC charge our batteries in fire proof containers for a very good reason. I'm not saying NOT to use a Lipo battery but if I did I'd be putting it in a fireproof battery container. They have battery charging bags that are cheap and light and you could fashion a protective case easy enough. The charging system on a normal car or airplane is not designed for the special requirements needed to properly charge and maintain a Lipo. If the charging system is altered for a Lipo battery and a fire proof box added you might end up with a safe and reliable system.

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  7. I've used similar type stuff on GA windshields and it does work on plexiglass. Never used it on polycarbonate. I have removed a few scratches from polycarbonate with a heat gun, don't try this at home, boys and girls, cause one has to be extremely careful.

    The experts; the lab manager and store manager at the eye glass store I made glasses at swore there was no way to remove scratches from customers glasses. They were partly correct. My father was a watchmaker when I was a child in the 60's. People would bring in their watches to get new crystals put in because they were so scratched you could no longer read the dials to tell time. I heard him say 100's of times "You don't need a new crystal, I'll buff that out for you." And he did! He used jewelers rouge and a light touch. The glass lens he could apply more pressure but you can easily melt a polycarbonate lens and end up with distortion. While the eye glass place didn't buff customers prescription glasses, I often buffed out my cheap readers while working there to get a few more miles out of them. I melted a few pair too! Even a little buffing will change the prescription but with readers it's not a big deal. If I had to see out of them full time I'd have to agree that they should not be buffed to remove scratches.

    As far as the scratch remover kit were talking about, yes it will work. It will fix cd's and dvd's if the scratches are not too deep also. I've used plastic polishes for motorcycle helmet shields too to get a few more years of life out of them. If your new to the process I'd suggest doing the front and center sections last to give you time to practice on the less important sections. The drill attachment will work fast. It can destroy a window fast too. Heat is your enemy when power polishing plastics. Keep the tool moving to prevent heat buildup and clean the window a couple of times before you start. Any grit not washed off your window before you start will work against you and put more scratches in than your removing. I've often taken my regular jewelers rouge and a buff on a drill out to fix a headlight on a car that's dulled more white than clear. It fixes them right up. If you get carried away and distort a section, stop. You cannot fix it and any attempt to do so will only dig your grave deeper. That's about when I decide I need a new pair of glasses or a new shield on a helmet, a mistake makes up my mind for me. The cast material is far easier to buff than the extruded but you can bring either material back some. Don't try to get it perfect or you will run the risk of going too far. You will be surprised how much yellow you can buff out too.

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  8. Was going to order my windshield today but AS&S said it was truck shipped. I don't want to pay that price for shipping so am going to try to get it locally. I just assumed everybody uses a lexan type material. I believe my old one is .093 plexiglass which is why the stress cracks near the wing roots. Polycarbonate is what they use or is it plexiglass? 

    Yes, I've seen both used in the front but poly is the one most people go with. Plexi will shatter if hit. You will still get the stress cracks in the corners no matter what you use because of the tight radius in those corners. I used a heat gun to heat the bend area slightly which helped. 

    There are a few different manufactures of the Poly. Ask the supplier which brand is the most scratch resistant, The last stuff I installed scratches very easy and I wont use it again. 

    I've worked as a machinist for decades and two of those years I made eye glasses for Vision 4 Less. We sold mainly two types of lens material and all the "experts" including the store manager and lab manager referred to them as "plastic" and "polycarbonate". I was the "old" guy that had a hard time teaching these kids in their 30's and 40's that I might know something about their field that they didn't know. They don't understand that "polycarbonate" IS a plastic! While their "plastic" lens were a lower grade material than the "polycarbonate" lens they are in fact both plastics. We have a similar situation going on in this conversation concerning "Lexan" and "polycarbonate" for windshields. For the record; they are both "polycarbonate" plastic. "Lexan" is a trade name for "polycarbonate" made by a specific vendor.

    The biggest difference in "polycarbonate" material from any vendor is if it was made by "casting" or "extruding" the stuff. To machine the stuff or bend the stuff or scratch the stuff all varies from vendor to vendor but cast verses extruded needs to be looked at depending on your application. I can machine it on a lathe or mill all day long if it's cast. If it's extruded it melts at a lower temperature and likes to stick to the tooling making it hard to get a good finish. I wish I could say "this is best" but the truth is "best" is a whole can of worms I don't want to open. For eyeglasses we used "cast" material. Most of your "shooter" glasses and safety glasses are "polycarbonate" material for impact resistance.

    Heat works for tight bends but depending on if it's cast or extruded, the amount of heat will vary. If you want a uniform thickness then you will chose one over the other. You want the cheapest one, you will choose one over the other. There's no one size fits all. Just like airplanes, one kind cannot do it all.

    Link here to a plastic vendor: https://www.acplasticsinc.com/informationcenter/r/what-is-lexan I'm not recommending them, it's the first link I found with info on Lexan for you. This site does not go into the difference between cast and extruded but you can find that online in many places too.

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  9. New or old the first thing I would check is static balance on a home made string and hub center prop balancing device. Second while not usually a problem but I'd also check tip tracking from blade to blade. Set up a board or pole or tall back chair next to the prop and tape a pencil or some other pointy device at the tip of the prop and move the blade around until the other blade comes by and see if they are tracking exactly the same. With a couple of marks of bright marker or paint on the blade tips you can also start the engine and observe the marks from the side of the plane to see if one blade flexes more than the other causing the tip tracking to be different. Some composite blades don't get manufactured with the same amount of resin and even if balanced one may flex more than the other. One blade dialed into a slightly different pitch will also cause the tracking to vary from tip to tip while under load. Probably not your problem but it's something you can check if you run out of options. Sometimes the tracking issues are blade related and other times it could be a hub that was machined out of spec. You can mark the hub and swap the blades from side to side in these cases and see if the tracking issues follow to the new blade locations. If it does it's the blade, otherwise it's the hub or gearbox.


  10. Never seen anything like that before! Is it real?  We hillbillies have one leg shorter so walking is not a level headed experience for us. But we did have a level headed hillbilly one time, tobacco juice run out of both sides of his mouth.

    I think I dated his sister. She was born with one leg shorter than the other so her parents named her Eileen. That short leg came in handy mushroom hunting on the side of steep hills.

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  11. I heard a dog found it first and claimed it for it's own.

     

    Dog with wig.jpg

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  12. Standard Lord mounts. Your old one should have a number on it. Mine used 150PD-30 and the "150" number is the series "Diamond" in my case. Yours pictured are not Diamond. I have an Avid Flyer with a 582 but who knows how many variations in mounts they have had? I have no idea if my original ones were the right ones. The radiator mounts were also bad on mine so I tracked down new ones for those too. Sometimes you can search Barry mounts and find them listed also. The Lord Company is a good place to figure out exactly what you need and then once you have their part number you can hunt down a vendor in your part of the world. E-bay part searches may work also. Link here: http://lordfulfillment.com/pdf/44/PC7000_IndustrialParts.pdf#page=72

     

    PC7000_IndustrialParts.pdf#page=72

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  13. I found an affordable way to make carbon fiber tubing. A guy I follow on YouTube builds flying wing sail planes. He's currently building a new version of his flying wing glider. Jim mentioned canoe paddles, this method would be great for the shaft of a paddle. It might work for gear legs too if you layer it.

     


  14. The Rotax ignition is very dirty, and begs for suppression. A kit used to be sold that put the ignitors in a shielded box, but that is no longer provided. I wrapped grounded copper mesh around the ignition boxes, and the spark plug wires, and made a dramatic reduction in the e-field that washes through the cockpit from the engine. Also, if you have an antenna cable, using the double shielded coax really helps as well. I will post some photos of my shielding when I get home in a day or so.

    An easy way to check if it's a radio problem or an engine problem is to shut of the engine and then try the radio regardless of the engine brand.

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  15. The furnace is still running here in Iowa too. Must be that global warming they keep talking about.


  16. I gravity bleed my cars and trucks.

    That's even cheaper yet! Don't let the government find out or they will add a gravity use tax on top of the useless taxes we already have.

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  17. That link showing the Avid with floats jumping off the water was impressive. The description said it was an early model but it didn't list the engine size. If it still had a 503 in it I'm even more impressed. Another video posted by the same guy shows a Kitfox doing aerobatics but again not too many details. The Kitfox looks like all the dihedral has been dialed out of the wing and that makes sense to keep it from wanting to roll out of the top of a loop all the time. I'm curious if dialing out the dihedral in our Avids would help getting that takeoff distance even shorter? Your not losing airflow diagonal across your airfoil with the dihedral dialed down.

    How's the Catalina compare to the regular Avid on floats? Which gets out of the water quicker? Is the dihedral on the Catalina the same as the Avid Flyer?

    Turbo, the foam leading edge idea needs to be tried. It could be hot wired out of strips of foam in short time. If it works the foam could be glued directly over the fabric covered leading edge and another cap of fabric glued down on top of it. Just got to make sure it's the right kind of foam. Mek is an awful strong solvent and I suspect it eats foam.


  18. I'd suggest you buy it. I don't think your going to get one any cheaper. You can't buy the material to make one any cheaper. If you got a chunk of metal the right size then making one might be an option. I've got a lathe and a mill and for $90 bucks I'd buy it before killing a half a day to round up the tooling and make it myself.

    Here's a link to material prices. https://www.grainger.com/category/raw-materials/aluminum/aluminum-rod-stock

    You going to pay more for the material alone if your trying to make it.

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  19. With a flat bottom the rib profile looks like an Aeronca Champ wing rib. NACA 4412 was used for those and it's been a popular airplane for decades. While you may be able to speed it up, I wonder if you can do so without raising the stall as well?