akflyerbob

I will admit that when a dependable 4 stroke in the 2 stroke price hits

the market, I might not be first to get it but close.

I guess I'm great convert, 15 years ago I bought an Avid kit, I sold it because

I couldn't beleave any one would get in any an airplane with wings built

with wood glued to water pipe spars,,,,,well "DA", now now I fly the hell out of

a Fox mod 1, "I" rebuilt with the same glue and love it,,, "DA"

This is going to be an endles argument

We use our planes for different purposes, we like dirt and creek banks

All I can say is in all my snowmachine days I have never walked home

and I have a fox mod 1, stock 582, that will make your 912 go hide when

you fly like we do.

Bob

Look back at Jack's post, he outlines the difference pretty well.

Both of my Fox's had .060 material with them. The mod 1 someone

made, the mod 111, never built, also had .060 material.

I just replaced what they had.

The 60 is really easy to work with and 80--93 (aircraft spruce #) more

labor intensive to install.

Bob

I checked the thickness on the two 4X8 sheets I have left

and sure enouh they are .060.

My windsheld does bow in but not much, doesn't touch the tubes.

Maybe I get back in the air when Leni comes home, @ 1 1/2 weeks.

Had an accident to my left hand, couple surgeries latter, will

be able to hold the stick soon.?

Leni, what we used was .060", not 90.

I tried the plexi-polish on my Focus head lights,

it worked OK.  Haven't tried it on the Fox.

Bob

I thought you could say what you want on this site. Well, thanks cause

the truth does really hurt sometimes

BUT I still have my FOX

I had other pilot buddies telling me "O YOUR JUST A SISSY" and other

things, I'm sure you can thimk of some and maybe have herd some.

I have flown many years, with a long break, and I will tell you for a

FACT, if not for a couple hours with Leni, I WOULD NOT have my fox.

I totally lost it several times, and it is quick to lose.

I think high speed taxing might the easiest place to lose it too.

BOB

Yes, I thought you were trying to fill the hole where the ring worm

came out

check with a auto body shop

there are some fillers that are light and flexable,

ie for plastic bumpers and such, come in a tube, and are designed

to be painted over with hot or mild paint/thinner

house paint weighs almost the same on the house as it does in the can

Bob

On the rivit under the strut bracket... cut a short piece of steel tubing, just long enough to clear the bracket but short enough for the rivit gun to catch the rivit nail.

it is also ok to bend the nail a little. You can also use a 1/4" drive socket for the tubing.

AK.. Don't wory about the rust, I didn't fly for 21 years but a few landings and S turns with Leni and back in the groove. Well, it wasn't fun on the first landing but

Leni saved it.

Bob

I can't think of anything internal that would caust the simptoms you describe.

More likely it is external, as in grounding, shorting or shorting ignition switch.

Up grading will only solve the bank account problem.

Akflyer, your 40's are in my suitcase. Can't believe the shipping down here, in the real world.

Got the 40's in two days from Chicago, really in one. Ordered @ 11 am received @ 5pm next.

Fastest UPS truck in the world.

Bob                 

I've been told the samething.

I don't know when the split was tho

Bob

LOL

Surly, no offence taken.

I think the Fox 1, in my opinion,is more just for play.

The two big deals with mine are the door opening is smaller and the fush is narrow.

Once your in side, leg room is plenty. I'm chunkie so me getting in looks a little like the

monkey/football thing.

Once I'm home from San Diego I have a Fox 111 to start building that these problems have been solved,

door bottom flattened, wider fush. I hope to mod the 111 to 1V controls to fix other issues.

Bob

I must be old school but my KF model 1 at 519 lbs exibits no bad habits and always goes where I

piont it, unless I am to close behind leni, talk about turbulance (from that other site)

If it does have some "BAD", I guess I learned to deal with them with out knowing they were there.

Bob

Well, seems that the boys took wives and all out to a favorite frozen lake, with forest service cabin, and

are grounded from the volcanic ash fall. Both airplanes and snowmachines are stuck. There is a fresh snow

so maybe getting out won't be to bad.

The lake is @ 20 miles from the nearist road.

I'm in San Diego but talked to Leni's brother this morning, and my son who works on a Cook inlet oil platform.

More later

Bob

Hay y'all, I'm in the big SD, well actually Ramona.

Where is the short wing thing? Maybe I can look at it, only from a distance, don't want it to fall on me. lol

On the way down I bought a Plane&Pilot mag, April edition, which has a good article on a restored PA20

Bob

My tail wheel bolt is nither to long or to short, not superglued or welded

I think its just tightly wound with a clothes hanger

I had a 26Wx22Hx13 bag made for under the turtle for $30 at a local upl shop

"Shop around",, my bag even has a hard blastic bottom

Bandit

You say your Bandit only has manual trim. As the picture shows, you have a movable trim on the elev. The early Kit Fox's shur could use this trim.

I fly a KF mod 1 that only has a fixed trim.

If you have the build books, could you post a picture of how

its made and operate

bob