Avid Randy

That's Awesome to hear!

I'm taking alot of my metal parts to be powder coated on Friday.  Was hoping for the Best but now I feel much better about it for sure.  Thought it would hold up good seeing they use it alot on well used parts.

Can't wait now.....

I have not called them yet but was planning on this week.  Just didn't know if anyone had any problems or recommendations based on personal use.

I will try to call tomorrow and see what they recommend.

Attached are drawings I made for you.  Use what you like.  Check your numbers and if anything is different I can change it and shoot it back to you or if you would want anything added as well. 

I attached both JPEG and PDF.

Wish You All The Best With Your Inspection!!!

Randy

Avid Flyer Mark IV Color Drawing.pdf

Interested in any information on electric trim for the Mark IV. 

Curious what electric trims any of you may have used and what length of travel works best with the Mark IV style trim tab?

I would looking at ordering a Ray Allen but was not really sure what travel would work best.

Randy

akflyer

That Sounds Great!!!  #1. I don't need a stretch for the 912 and #2. That the extended speedwing seems to be going well for Joey and your personal results in the great performance.  I was already planning on adding VGs too.  So it sounds like I am starting down the right road with the upgrade to the wings to end up with a Great Bird.  Guess I need to reach out again to Mark at New Avid and get the parts I need to extend my wings before I get started on the wings.

Chris

Again thanks for all your input regarding the 912.  I really would like to have the 912 as it being a 4 stroke but was leaning back to the 582 obviously for cost reasons.  But after some of your info I definitely would prefer the 912.  Have to see how it all works out.

No worries about pushing the 912 I appreciate all the info as it helps to prepare for the right decision down the road.  If you do see a good deal out your way please let me know.  I would just have it shipped.

Thanks guys

Randy

Sorry I have been wanting to post this for you for a while but just keep forgetting to pull out the belly pan and unwrap it to take a pic.  I just purchased a complete Mark IV kit and this is the belly pan that was in the kit.  Maybe you already made something but I wanted to make sure to get this out to you in case you have not. 

After unwrapping it seems it was beat up a little through my transfer/transport or during the last 26 years of storage who knows.  I included several photos for your review.  It is 33 1/4" wide x 24 5/8" long.  The 24 5/8" is the length with the bend in the front.  When flattening out the front edge (as much as possible without distorting) it measures 24 3/4".  The bend is 3/4" and I would guess it to be 45 deg.  I did not get the degree but if you really want it I can measure.

Wishing You The Very Best On Your Build!!!  I'm Looking Forward To Mine!

Randy from PA

Chris 

Thank you for all your insight between the different engines.  It definitely gives me something to mull over!  I really would like to have a 4cycle as they are a little more forgiving but I also know that most of the time anything well taken care should/will last longer.

I used to race motocross many years ago through the 2 cycle era and what a pain in the ASS at times with the 2 strokes.  I was constantly rebuilding the head from the piston marring it all up.  I'm going to go out on the limb here and say I think that the motocross was a lot more demanding on the engine in a sense due to constant RPM changes in very short intervals.  Compared to being in the air where there is more constant RPMs overall.

So I do really understand what you are saying in regards to these engines especially taking into consideration your going to be in the air and not on a track on the ground.  I have read many success stories with the 582 including yours and many unsuccessful stories as well which makes me question some of what I would like to do.  I have a comparison chart between the 582/912 but just can't seem to find it right now.  It basically shows through the TBO of the 912 (including everything that needs to be done to it) the 582 wins hands down with costs even rebuilding every 300 hrs.  So I think that is what is still keeping me hanging on to possibly try the 582 at least for a while.  Initial cost and maintenance costs being better the whole way through.  In retrospect as you mentioned there is a lot less down time due to much less maintenance with the 912. 

I was thinking that you had to do the stretch to get the 912 to work?  Maybe with all my reading about different topics I might have gotten mixed with all the auto conversions and all.

Anyways I do appreciate you taking the time to give me your opinion and info from experience on this topic.  I'm sure we will converse more about this while moving forward on this project.

And Yes it is a Mark IV with all that I can tell with the paperwork and the key features and parts account for it.  Yay!!!

Again Thanks for your input and kind words

Randy

akflyer

Your Very Welcome!  I will try to keep active with progress on the site as much as I can.  Looking forward to it!

Thanks for your kind words

Randy

Randy Himes from Southern PA.

I have been a long time follower of the site on and off at times but always soaking up information wishing to sometime build or own an Avid.  Been following the Avids since around 1998 dreaming of flying one someday.  Roughly three weeks ago I finally bought a kit that was a complete practically unstarted Mark IV.  Only the fuselage was painted and that was it.  Returned today to pick up items that were missing after doing an inventory of the parts.  Funny thing is......it was some large items that should not have been missed like the tail feathers & prop but also a box of many small items.

1992 Avid Flyer Mark IV #1199D Speedwing Tailwheel  (fuselage painted white & red) Currently no engine but was to be a 582 and will probably still go that route

Possibly looking at trying to get extension kit from new Avid for the speed wings, maybe add nose wheel to convert back and forth as see fit, would like to do added width option that Jim Chuk did to his.

Looking forward to soaking up more info moving forward and getting answers to my many questions to come through the process.  Thanks to all on the site so far!!!

Trying to finish the garage it is going to be built in so I can have some Building FUN!  Should start building in next few days since I now know I have just about all of the parts. (only a few missing)

Randy from PA

Leni,

Thank You for such a Great Site for all of us to use!  I have been following it for a long time and always wondered how to contribute to it.  My own dumb fault for not asking!!!

Since I have not contributed in the past I just sent you a large donation through PP to contribute to help keep this site running.  

Since I finally got my kit a few weeks ago (after all these years ) I will be relying on this site for information and answers to questions going forward for sure!

Thanks Again

Randy

What would you take for all of them?

Thanks Randy 

It works the same way on a phone too.

Just bought a kit or I would've had an interest in yours.  Did your original kit come with the nose gear mount or did you fabricate something to work?  Curious as I'm looking at doing something to possibly add nose gear.  (Ed your not alone! ) Randy

I'm surely hoping so!!!  I would like to have the wings extended for a little extra safety margin but wasn't sure what the availability would be out there.  Left an email with Avid and have not heard back from them and then tonight got an email.  Mark advised Speedwing Ribs are ready and in stock to be used for an extension kit.  Just not sure what else it will take so will be working with them on that.  I definitely would like to do the widening of the fuse like Jim Chuk & Jared Payne did for extra shoulder width.  Yes for being basically 26 years old it is in rather good shape.  Few parts missing but I think we will be able to make it through it.

SOLD!  Thanks for the lead Paul.  Mr. Early was Super nice fellow.  Kit all packed up and ready to head to its new home for completion. 

Any more info or answers to questions?  I'm about 2 hrs away straight up 81.

Do you know is it a tricycle or have the option?  Any pics?  Does he have all parts except engine or what is missing?  Thanks Randy