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Holy Moly... look at this Newsflash! >>> Secret celebrity life of Leni P.!

Great Video Leni - I would be checking on the character who posted this - This may be the hacker you put a Hit contract on !!!!

ED in MO

(Am I the only one that the emocons don't work for??)

No, looks like a bug or two remains after the recent scrub down.

I got copies of them on DVD from Seehafer...

(Am I the only one that the emocons don't work for??)

I remember when they were touting the Avid as a crop duster! After growing up in a CD crowd, with Stearmans and Snows, I got a chuckle when I saw it - wondering how big a garden they could dust!

ED in MO

I could go on and on about this!!

I have the Matco MC4 Masters in my plane. The original brake on my plane were the inside-disc Douglas wheel setup with single puck Matco calipers. To say they sucked would be an absolute insult to things that suck. They were terrible in the extreme. I could barely hold the plane at a 3000 rpm run-up, much less try to stop on a short landing.

I upgraded to the Grove gear, wheels and brakes off my project plane when I bent my bungee truss (Story told elsewhere on this site).

These brakes are amazing in comparison. They are the double puck style calipers being run by the unmodified Matco masters. They are strong and reliable. I like strong brakes. If you jam on them hard you could nose over the plane. Some people don't like this, but I want to be able to stop, so it doesn't bother me. I can hold the plane with my larger tires with full power! That's what I like!!

Below are photos of the old and new brakes.

Thats great news for me - Just in case someone else reads this, the Matco brakes I have for sale with my old Grove gear are the heavier (double puck?) than the ones that came out on the earlier foxes/avids - They should work good on a 1200 gvw or less - I just changed because I wanted the heavier Kitfox 7 spring gear, and got Grove wheels and brakes with it.

Thanks again,

ED in MO

Wlhat size tires are you running?

I'll be darned. I would look at my Avid promo tape but I dumped the VHS a loooong time ago!

I got copies of them on DVD from Seehafer...

(Am I the only one that the emocons don't work for??)

I'll be darned. I would look at my Avid promo tape but I dumped the VHS a loooong time ago!

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there...

Hehe, the man the LEGEND, especially if you full screen it! :)src="http://www.avidfoxflyers.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif">

Avid made a couple of different belly pods. I have the old promo videos from Avid that show them - even a crop spraying option!

Bullet style:

I can't find a photo of the "pregnant guppy" style pod...

Holy Moly... look at this Newsflash! >>> Secret celebrity life of Leni P.!

Never realized Leni's head was that big compared to his body.Thats some funny shit Doug.Randy

Great photos Doug! Thanks.

I could go on and on about this!!

I have the Matco MC4 Masters in my plane. The original brake on my plane were the inside-disc Douglas wheel setup with single puck Matco calipers. To say they sucked would be an absolute insult to things that suck. They were terrible in the extreme. I could barely hold the plane at a 3000 rpm run-up, much less try to stop on a short landing.

I upgraded to the Grove gear, wheels and brakes off my project plane when I bent my bungee truss (Story told elsewhere on this site).

These brakes are amazing in comparison. They are the double puck style calipers being run by the unmodified Matco masters. They are strong and reliable. I like strong brakes. If you jam on them hard you could nose over the plane. Some people don't like this, but I want to be able to stop, so it doesn't bother me. I can hold the plane with my larger tires with full power! That's what I like!!

Below are photos of the old and new brakes.

Holy Moly... look at this Newsflash! >>> Secret celebrity life of Leni P.!

Not sure I've ever seen an Avid made cargo pod. Is it similar to the Kitfox cargo pod? Curious now for the pics...

I took a pic showing the difference between a KF 4-7 Riblett vs. Avid Speed rib. As you can see, NEITHER are flat bottom.

Hopefully, that will halt the hijack of this classified post.

I am a bit interested, but have'nt seen pictures of one in forever. Do you have pictures?

I will take some pics tonight and post tomorrow. I have the hardware as well from AVID to mount it. Anyone that wanted to minick the hardware could borrow mine.

Thanks

I am a bit interested, but have'nt seen pictures of one in forever. Do you have pictures?

Can I expect good braking with Matco MC-4 combined with Grove Calipers the size used on the Kitfox 7?

Should I plan on getting the reducer kit that Matco sells?

I think that Grove operates at 600 psi, and Matco about 450.

ED in MO

That's the rub, Ed.

The only drawings you will find of this rib will be a tracing of an existing rib or a reverse engineered copy. Neither of which I would trust. Kitfox has less than zero incentive to publish the engineering details of it, therefore they never will. It gets into the whole intellectual property issue...

This has been discussed here before.

I will take a tracing, or any way I can get a print - Up to me to find out how accurate it is - no law against it unless you intend to sell them.

ED in MO

Ed Skyraider is another spin off of Avid and Kitfox back in the 80's,they are chrome moly tube and fabric welded,been a sucessful airplane.Check um out.They are www.skyraiderllc.com

Randy

Thanks for the info - will check it out - I have learned a lot from all of you on here - Keep it coming.

ED in MO

Okay. I'll play along!

I'm Av8r3400 (aka Larry)

• I am currently flying a Kitfox Model IV-1050.
• Powered by a 80 hp Rotax 912UL
• 72" Taper tip, Nickel inlay prop
• (now) Grove Gear, Grove wheels and double puck brakes, 21x800x6 Aero Classic Tires (with skis in the winter!)
• Registered as an ELSA, so I took the 16 hour class and hold the inspector's license for it

I'm also building/restoring a Model IV-1200 Classic. This also has a 912UL and will sport the same gear package. I'm planning some tail modifications that I will detail here as I get to them.

Now that we're back up and running please post up here when you get some time.

av8r

I want to buy.

I believe the model 4-7 with a 912S and 26" air streaks will meet my needs.

What speed will these Kitfoxes cruise at burning 5 g/h with 26" Air streaks?

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Herman - Get a hold of this guy, Paul Leadabrand. He operates a business called "Stick and Rudder" in Idaho. He's running a big tired SLSA Kitfox (Factory Built) as a flight school. He should be able to give you a bunch of information on performance.

I would guess that with 100 hp, you should still see 110-115 mph fairly easily.

Some day I'd really like to get out there and do some training with him...

av8r

I want to buy.

I believe the model 4-7 with a 912S and 26" air streaks will meet my needs.

What speed will these Kitfoxes cruise at burning 5 g/h with 26" Air streaks?

I spoke with Sky raider regarding their Frontier and got the impression they are marketing the pilots that prefer Lycomings over 912's.

Their wing loading is higher than Kitfoxes and Highlander which I assume would feel more solid in turbulent air.

My model 1 feels like a toy airplane in anything but mild turbulence.

My wish would be a Highlander with a faster wing even if it gives up a little short field performance.

Or a Kitfox with adjustable seats and more open baggage area.

Any one know of 912 Kitfox's for sale?

Herman

I would sure like to have a full-size drawing of one - to compare with what I was given.

Thanks,

ED in MO

That's the rub, Ed.

The only drawings you will find of this rib will be a tracing of an existing rib or a reverse engineered copy. Neither of which I would trust. Kitfox has less than zero incentive to publish the engineering details of it, therefore they never will. It gets into the whole intellectual property issue...

This has been discussed here before.